McFadden

[twistitup]

Awesome.  Where is Felix now?  Can we have the duo back in action?  Move Mallett on up to the boys and we got us a team.

Here's Felix
http://www.felixjones28.net

In addition, Hillis just got cut I think

[Rocky Mountain Living]

I doubt the 2013 5th round Pick Randle and DMC can replace Demarco's carries next year.

I doubt this is going to be popular

Jerry is paying DMC starter money at RB at 2 years $5.85 million

If Jerry would of signed Dez Bryant...vs franchising him for $12.3 million cap hit. 

Jerry would of had a minimum $5 million savings on the cap in 2015.   Freeing up the money to sign Demarco to a hometown discount (think max contract of 5 year $40 million)

Last year Demarco rushes 436 times including playoffs.  No way

[Pigliophile]

I hope he can stay healthy and has a 1,000 yard year. He was by far my favorite hog when I was growing up and is still probably #1 on my list. I'm so glad he got out of Oakland and landed and a good time with a great O-line.

[20hog11]

When DMAC and Jones were in the draft there were only two places I hoped that they wouldn't end up at, Oakland and Dallas....... I stopped hoping for anything after that.

[jb11]

So one on one side of the bench and the other on the other side?

You mean one on one training table and one on the other.

I am happy for him though. He is on my son's favorite team and one of my least favorite, but I will be rooting for him.

[twistitup]

!

[Hogarusa]

I doubt the 2013 3rd Pick Randle and DMC can replace Demarco's carries next year.

I doubt this is going to be popular

Jerry is paying DMC starter money at RB at 2 years $5.85 million

If Jerry would of signed Dez Bryant...vs franchising him for $12.3 million cap hit. 

Jerry would of had a minimum $5 million savings on the cap in 2015.   Freeing up the money to sign Demarco to a hometown discount (think max contract of 5 year $40 million)

Last year Demarco rushes 436 times including playoffs.  No way

2 years $5.85 million is backup money.  Only 200K guaranteed.  This is on the cheap.  Signing him doesn't mean that AD still isn't an option either.

They also signed Ryan Williams to a 2 year deal.  They now have DMAC, Randle, Dunbar, and Williams and everyone today has basically said there will be an addition by either draft pick or AD. 

DMAC is going to have to compete for a roster spot. 

[bigdaddyhawg]

I doubt the 2013 5th round Pick Randle and DMC can replace Demarco's carries next year.

I doubt this is going to be popular

Jerry is paying DMC starter money at RB at 2 years $5.85 million

If Jerry would of signed Dez Bryant...vs franchising him for $12.3 million cap hit. 

Jerry would of had a minimum $5 million savings on the cap in 2015.   Freeing up the money to sign Demarco to a hometown discount (think max contract of 5 year $40 million)

Last year Demarco rushes 436 times including playoffs.  No way

The Cowboys are not through in their mission to replace Murray.

There will be at least one more addition, either via draft or free agent.

[bigdaddyhawg]

2 years $5.85 million is backup money.  Only 200K guaranteed.  This is on the cheap. 

Good point.  I'm learning that in the NFL the "contract money" means zip.  All that has meaning is the guaranteed money.

IF DMac knocks the top off, I think most folks would agree that contract would be a heck of a value.

[Rocky Mountain Living]

If they go out and get Spiller, between he, dmac and Ryan Williams they could maybe piece together a full season.

Spiller is not going to sign w Dallas. 

At that point when you have added both DMC and Spiller by losing Demarco.   That is a net loss IMO

[Razorback_Mack]

I love McFadden but I cant stand the Cowboys!! Such a conflict of interest for me. lol

You can't stand the franchise that donates multi millions to the U of A? I've never understood that train of thought. It's like saying you don't like one of our biggest boosters.

[SamBuckhart]

Happy for Darren. Oakland in the rear view mirror. Sorry to the guy who has 500 Demarco Cowboys jerseys. I wouldn't mind having a Cowboys McFadden jersey though. Wonder if he gets #5 ?

[Rocky Mountain Living]

2 years $5.85 million is backup money.  Only 200K guaranteed.  This is on the cheap.  Signing him doesn't mean that AD still isn't an option either.

AD = Adrian All Day Peterson?

DMac signed a 1 year $1.75 million deal last year and didnt do anything to warrant the deal(raise) he got from the Cowboys. 

I dont understand the $200K signing bonus argument because DMac only got $100K signing bonus last year from the Raiders.

[ballhog71]

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/12474674/darren-mcfadden-dallas-cowboys-agree-two-year-deal

[Hog in Iowa]

Too bad he didn't go to Dallas as a rookie instead of to Oakland.  I remember cringing when he was selected.

[bigdaddyhawg]

AD = Adrian All Day Peterson?

DMac signed a 1 year $1.75 million deal last year and didnt do anything to warrant the deal(raise) he got from the Cowboys. 

I dont understand the $200K signing bonus argument because DMac only got $100K signing bonus last year from the Raiders.

So you're fussing about a perceived $100,000 excess in his signing bonus, with a player budget of, what, almost $150,000,000?

Talk about picking that proverbial nit.

[Athletes pigs feet]

what a great day to be a Cowboys / Razorback fan

[Hogarusa]

AD = Adrian All Day Peterson?

DMac signed a 1 year $1.75 million deal last year and didnt do anything to warrant the deal(raise) he got from the Cowboys. 

I dont understand the $200K signing bonus arguement because DMac only got $100k signing bonus last year from the Raiders.

AD= All Day, correct.

Backup contract is probably wrong way to define it but his contract terms are closer to that of Roy Helu than it is to what Ryan Mathews, Frank Gore, and Vereen received.

$200,000 guaranteed.  To compare, Forsett guarantee is 3 million, Mathews 5 million, gore 6.5 million, and Vereen 4.75 million.

I agree the raise isn't warranted but it's a low risk contract.  IF DMAC wins the starting gig, he will be one of lowest paid RB starters in league outside players in their rookie contact.

[Rocky Mountain Living]

So you're fussing about a perceived $100,000 excess in his signing bonus, with a player budget of, what, almost $150,000,000?

Talk about picking that proverbial nit.

Nope...My point DMac got a contract from the Cowboys that pays him as a starter

... in what I would consider 3rd Tier level



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/13/big-gap-exists-in-the-running-back-market/

"That's a gap of (abacus engaged) roughly $4 million per year between the first and second tier."


great article on the first two tiers that might change your perspective on the Cowboys signing anyone else for more money than DMac.

[whosiskid]

I hate, hate, hate, hate Dallas, but I have to think that this is a good place for Darren to land. I think this move could be similar to Cedric Benson's a few years back. Chicago was a bad fit for him, and Oakland was bad for Darren. I think he'll have a good year for them. Even though I want Dallas to go 0-16 despite Darren leading the league in rushing.

[CDBHawg]

2 years $5.85 million is backup money.  Only 200K guaranteed.  This is on the cheap.  Signing him doesn't mean that AD still isn't an option either.

They also signed Ryan Williams to a 2 year deal.  They now have DMAC, Randle, Dunbar, and Williams and everyone today has basically said there will be an addition by either draft pick or AD. 

DMAC is going to have to compete for a roster spot.

I've only read where the 200k is the signing bonus.

Where are you seeing it is the guaranteed minimum?

[Rocky Mountain Living]

AD= All Day, correct.

Backup contract is probably wrong way to define it but his contract terms are closer to that of Roy Helu than it is to what Ryan Mathews, Frank Gore, and Vereen received.

$200,000 guaranteed.  To compare, Forsett guarantee is 3 million, Mathews 5 million, gore 6.5 million, and Vereen 4.75 million.

I agree the raise isn't warranted but it's a low risk contract.  IF DMAC wins the starting gig, he will be one of lowest paid RB starters in league outside players in their rookie contact.

AD is not signing w Dallas either. 

They don't have the cap for it without us seeing major contract re-structuring w Romo

200K signing bonus is what I would expect to the Cowboys to pay DMac based on his production and contract from last year

DMac got a contract at almost the same tier as those you listed to start in 2015 for their respective teams!


contracts this year in free agency at RB:
"The top of the tailback market has gone berserk, with Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch averaging more than $10 million per year on a new three-year contract, Eagles running back DeMarco Murray averaging $8.4 million on a five-year deal, and Bills running back LeSean McCoy getting $8 million annually on a new five-year contract.  (Still lurking is Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, who is currently due to make $13 million in 2015.)

And then there’s the other end of the spectrum, with Saints running back Mark Ingram signing a four-year, $16 million deal, the Giants getting Shave Vereen for $12.35 million over three years, Colts running back Frank Gore inking for $12 million over three, Eagles running back Ryan Mathews signing for $11.5 million over three, and Ravens running back Justin Forsett saying put for $9 million over three."


www.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/13/big-gap-exists-in-the-running-back-market/

[bigdaddyhawg]

Nope...My point DMac got a contract from the Cowboys that pays him as a starter

... in what I would consider 3rd Tier level

I'd say you need to put your application in for the next open GM slot.

Sounds like you can do better than a guy whose team won its division last year and went to the playoffs.

[CDBHawg]

AD is not signing w Dallas either. 

They don't have the cap for it without us seeing major contract re-structuring w Romo

200K signing bonus is what I would expect to the Cowboys to pay DMac based on his production and contract from last year

DMac got a contract at almost the same tier as those guys to start!

"The top of the tailback market has gone berserk, with Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch averaging more than $10 million per year on a new three-year contract, Eagles running back DeMarco Murray averaging $8.4 million on a five-year deal, and Bills running back LeSean McCoy getting $8 million annually on a new five-year contract.  (Still lurking is Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, who is currently due to make $13 million in 2015.)

And then there's the other end of the spectrum, with Saints running back Mark Ingram signing a four-year, $16 million deal, the Giants getting Shave Vereen for $12.35 million over three years, Colts running back Frank Gore inking for $12 million over three, Eagles running back Ryan Mathews signing for $11.5 million over three, and Ravens running back Justin Forsett saying put for $9 million over three."

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/13/big-gap-exists-in-the-running-back-market/

Murray's deal is only 21 mil guaranteed. Meaning it less than 8.4/yr.

My guess is that Mcfadden counts around 1-1.5mil against the cap next year. If he makes the team.

[MultipleScoreGasms]

Too bad he didn't go to Dallas as a rookie instead of to Oakland.  I remember cringing when he was selected.

I always referred to his draft selection as a career ending injury.  Maybe he can get a couple good years out of recovery.

[Rocky Mountain Living]

I'd say you need to put your application in for the next open GM slot.

Sounds like you can do better than a guy whose team won its division last year and went to the playoffs.

Cowboys are a disaster when it comes to managing the cap


A 10 year old could of done a better job than JJ.  HA HA

[Rocky Mountain Living]

Murray's deal is only 21 mil guaranteed. Meaning it less than 8.4/yr.

My guess is that Mcfadden counts around 1-1.5mil against the cap next year. If he makes the team.

200K is the total guaranteed amount on DMac's contract.  If he is cut....Boys only out 200K against the Cap in 2015.   Definitely a low risk contract

[rzrbk4life]

Here's to hoping he tears in up in Dallas. Best of luck DMAC!

[Peppa Pig]

It is actually conceivable that the Cowboys backfield could be Darren McFadden and Adrian Peterson this season.  If you had told me that 5 years ago, my head would have exploded.

But yes, yes, yes...I know it won't happen.  Even though AD would love to come to Dallas, he'll still be too expensive after the Vikes cut him.  Cowboys will address RB in the draft with a mid-rounder.  And this version of DMac is nothing like we all hoped he would be...but still.  What a crazy duo that would be.

[CDBHawg]

200K is the total guaranteed amount on DMac's contract.  If he is cut....Boys only out 200K against the Cap in 2015.   Definitely a low risk contract

No doubt it is.

[flowermoundstan]

I always referred to his draft selection as a career ending injury.  Maybe he can get a couple good years out of recovery.

pow!

made my day thanks for the laugh.

[Rocky Mountain Living]

No doubt it is.

I like your guess....

If DMac made $1.75 last year. 

Bet his salary is close to that (1.75) with bonuses tied to game day availability and production that can pay him closer to $3 million in 2015 with not likely to be earned contract stipulations

[k.c.hawg]

This is essentially a one year deal unless he has a spectacular year. You make it a 2 year deal and back load it. You make it a 2 year deal and even if you cut him before the season, the $200k is split between 2 seasons and you take $100k cap hit for 2 years. He has been given $200k to come compete for a roster spot. I would love to see him still have enough in the tank to win a spot and get 150 carries this year. 150 carries and 600+ yards would be a great year for him and the Cowboys. He will not be a feature back.

[bigdaddyhawg]

Cowboys are a disaster when it comes to managing the cap


A 10 year old could of done a better job than JJ.  HA HA

There is a belief in the DFW folks that follow the Cowboys that JJ is no longer hands on, but rather the team is being run by Stephen these days.

[Artex501]

There is a belief in the DFW folks that follow the Cowboys that JJ is no longer hands on, but rather the team is being run by Stephen these days.

Makes sense, there is a clear change.

[k.c.hawg]

Cowboys are a disaster when it comes to managing the cap


A 10 year old could of done a better job than JJ.  HA HA

Actually he has managed as well or better than most. The Cowboys have rarely cut stars or been unable to sign a star player when they wanted one. Most teams in the league cut good players that they would prefer not to cut due to cap implications. That being said, I wouldn't call him a great personnel man especially in relation to Jimmy Johnson. The sheer nature of this business is....when you pay one of the big stars in the game what his camp is demanding you are signing said player to a 5 year + deal knowing fully well you will never be able to pay him the last 2 to 3 years of the deal and field a 53 man team. At that point it is up to the player to renegotiate to a more team friendly deal or get cut. There are no 6 year, no 7 year deals in this league....period! When you see one take the guaranteed money and divide it by 3 years or 4 years to find out what the deal actually is per year.

[26.2Hog]

Even if he makes a roster spot, he won't necessarily be paid the 2-year deal, which is being reported as up to 5.85 mil.  "Up to" always means a contract is heavily incentive based.

[Grizzlyfan]

Isn't Adrian Peterson still under contract with Minnesota for 2 more years? 

[Lips]

Although I am a Mcfadden fan..... I thought this was funny

[billymac]

I'm so pumped up!!!! Heck, why not pick up Hillis now!! WooooCowboySooooie! Haha

[Rocky Mountain Living]

There is a belief in the DFW folks that follow the Cowboys that JJ is no longer hands on, but rather the team is being run by Stephen these days.

I suspect the Cowboys cap is still poorly managed....even by Stephen Jones.

It is a bad sign using the WR Franchise tag vs signing a long term deal with Dez Bryant.   Dez gains leverage and costs more next year if JJ plans to hang on to him in 2016.


That $12.3 million tag is preventing JJ from signing other big free agents and his own free agents this offseason (and next offseason as JJ has to again negotiate Dez to the 2nd biggest contract on the Cowboys in 2016)

[alohawg]

Then go draft Gurley or Gordon and would be awesome.

Gurley, if not go after Chubb next year. I wish Darren big success, hope he does us proud again! Go Cowboys and DMAC!!!

[twistitup]

Although I am a Mcfadden fan..... I thought this was funny

Too easy

[alohawg]

Happy for Darren. Oakland in the rear view mirror. Sorry to the guy who has 500 Demarco Cowboys jerseys. I wouldn't mind having a Cowboys McFadden jersey though. Wonder if he gets #5 ?

Me too, that would be a keeper.

[Swine & Cheese Club]

Finally!

[CDBHawg]

Gurley, if not go after Chubb next year. I wish Darren big success, hope he does us proud again! Go Cowboys and DMAC!!!

Have to wait 2 years for Chubb.

[passinghog]

Dmac has made all his money, so him being the competitor that he is, I don't see a way if he stays healthy, that he doesn't end up making the roster. Their backups are still primarily special teams guys and won't get enough carries to really compete with him, given his experience and versatility as a player. Dallas needs to draft a young rookie back, but this will be the first time in his career--college or pro--in which Dmac will play on a team with a great line, very good qb, and great receivers.

[peakhog]

I'll continue to root for DMac and 100yd games but will never root for the Cowboys to win!

[Rocky Mountain Living]

Dmac has made all his money, so him being the competitor that he is, I don't see a way if he stays healthy, that he doesn't end up making the roster. Their backups are still primarily special teams guys and won't get enough carries to really compete with him, given his experience and versatility as a player. Dallas needs to draft a young rookie back, but this will be the first time in his career--college or pro--in which Dmac will play on a team with a great line, very good qb, and great receivers.

Besides making the roster.


Run Dmac is going to have a career year!

1,000 yards rushing....with Demarco running over 1,800 yards last year behind that line

.... and a great QB for the first time ever in his career...throwing that deadly screen game to Dmac behind that athletic OL

DMac will be a steal in the 2nd round Fantasy Draft this year!

[3kgthog]

He's still a weapon catching the ball out of the backfield. Considering the speed he started with, despite losing a step he's still faster than several RBs in the NFL. There's enough gas left in the tank to allow him to finish better than he started.