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ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 05:29:54 pm
We have a speed advantage based on what I have seen.

Slowing it down as the smaller team is crazy.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 05:33:25 pm #1
North Carolina feasts in transition.     Its how they avoid prolonged offensive slumps--- while tempting,  going fast against them is a recipe for getting buried.
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hog47

March 19, 2017, 05:39:32 pm #2
It's over turn out the lights.

hobhog

March 19, 2017, 05:39:40 pm #3
Stage fright. This game is too big for us....

popcornhog

March 19, 2017, 05:39:46 pm #4
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 05:33:25 pm
North Carolina feasts in transition.     Its how they avoid prolonged offensive slumps--- while tempting,  going fast against them is a recipe for getting buried.

Yeah. That was my biggest fear was that we'd try to out run them. On the other hand, it is what we do. I get what the OP is saying.

Either way, if we are gonna keep letting them dominate the offensive glass, they will win by 30+.
WPS

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 05:47:26 pm #5
Quote from: popcornhog on March 19, 2017, 05:39:46 pm
Yeah. That was my biggest fear was that we'd try to out run them. On the other hand, it is what we do. I get what the OP is saying.

Either way, if we are gonna keep letting them dominate the offensive glass, they will win by 30+.

Its going to be a matter of picking your poison when you are playing a legit Final 4 type team.

I'd rather lose by 19, than 39.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 05:48:12 pm #6
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 05:33:25 pm
North Carolina feasts in transition.     Its how they avoid prolonged offensive slumps--- while tempting,  going fast against them is a recipe for getting buried.

Do you see the score?

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 05:49:34 pm #7
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 05:48:12 pm
Do you see the score?

Yes.   And I've been watching the game as well-- the faster it goes, the more UNC exploits it-- they're killing us in transition.
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ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 05:52:02 pm #8
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 05:49:34 pm
Yes.   And I've been watching the game as well-- the faster it goes, the more UNC exploits it-- they're killing us in transition.

Bs. We haven't pushed the ball. We are going too deep in the clock which causes crazy shots and long rebounds .

We are going slow. They are going fast.

Gotta change.

ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 05:58:33 pm #9
Sped up. Went on a run.

How about that?

rhames

March 19, 2017, 05:59:12 pm #10
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 05:58:33 pm
Sped up. Went on a run.

How about that?

Cash you outside?
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ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 05:59:56 pm #11
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 05:52:02 pm
Bs. We haven't pushed the ball. We are going too deep in the clock which causes crazy shots and long rebounds .

We are going slow. They are going fast.

Gotta change.

We've pushed the ball, and sucked at converting-- which has led to transition points for them-- heck, they're even in transition off our makes at times.   When we slow down, our offense is significantly better in the half court with them--  there is a reason why they're considered the best transition offense in college basketball.

Playing them fast is a recipe for a one sided blow out-- its the old  mentality we used to use to get teams to run with us.  It was a mistake then, and is a mistake for us now.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:00:49 pm #12
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 05:58:33 pm
Sped up. Went on a run.

How about that?

Sped up?  No.  They committed some particularly dumb fouls,  and we've hit some shots.   Not a lot of speeding up at all.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
 

ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 06:05:27 pm #13
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:00:49 pm
Sped up?  No.  They committed some particularly dumb fouls,  and we've hit some shots.   Not a lot of speeding up at all.

Are you really trying to claim that we didn't speed up?

They turned it over and we got easy shots and driving lanes opened up. It also picked up our energy level.

15-2 run didn't happen by slowing the pace.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:06:45 pm #14
From the 3:19 mark-

Long 2 for Beard, 20 seconds into the shot clock.

Macon hits 3 FTs  at the 2:25 mark with under 10 on the shot clock

Bailey gets one transition basket.   

Easy steal underneath the hoop, we back it out, reset, and make a good pass.

UNC answers with a made transition 3.  Arkansas slows it back down with a Moses 3 about half way through the shot clock.

UNC gets a cheap follow.   We slow it down and don't initiate the offense until the 15 second mark on the shot clock, getting a Macon 3.


One, if you are being kind,  2 transition makes for Arkansas in that entire last 3:19--  and UNC still got 3 points in their transition in that same time frame.

Speeding it up is obviously *not* what closed that gap.  Made shots,  in the halfcourt set, and relatively deep into the shot clock is what closed that gap.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:07:22 pm #15
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 06:05:27 pm
Are you really trying to claim that we didn't speed up?

They turned it over and we got easy shots and driving lanes opened up. It also picked up our energy level.

15-2 run didn't happen by slowing the pace.

Rewatch the sequence.  The numbers don't lie.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 06:09:30 pm #16
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:07:22 pm
Rewatch the sequence.  The numbers don't lie.

Half-time crew talking about turnovers and run out points got us back in the game,faster pace.

Analyst just said move the defense to full court.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:11:07 pm #17
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 06:09:30 pm
Half-time crew talking about turnovers and run out points got us back in the game,faster pace.

Analyst just said move the defense to full court.



They showed a graphic with about 4 minutes in the half, that puts paid to that assertion-- at that point, we were outscored 17-2 off turnovers and even more broadly in transition in general.

Yes, they're going to want us to push the pace in what isn't a terribly competitive basketball game, because at least that will be interesting.     The numbers never, ever lie.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 06:11:16 pm #18
You don't beat great teams trying to be something you aren't. We aren't a slow it down team.

It's simple as that.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:12:56 pm #19
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 06:11:16 pm
You don't beat great teams trying to be something you aren't. We aren't a slow it down team.

It's simple as that.

You don't beat great teams  by doing what they do best, and what you don't do particularly well.

We're not a  true speed it up team-- and UNC is the best in the country at that.    We've not been the Fastest 40 in a long while.

What we are, is a good halfcourt offense that feasts at the foul line and that needs to avoid prolonged shooting droughts.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 06:13:16 pm #20
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:11:07 pm
They showed a graphic with about 4 minutes in the half, that puts paid to that assertion-- at that point, we were outscored 17-2 off turnovers and even more broadly in transition in general.

Yes, they're going to want us to push the pace in what isn't a terribly competitive basketball game, because at least that will be interesting.     The numbers never, ever lie.

We were playing slow then.

You have misinterpreted those numbers. Our turnovers are coming late in the shot clock.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:14:54 pm #21
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 06:13:16 pm
We were playing slow then.

You have misinterpreted those numbers. Our turnovers are coming late in the shot clock.


There's no fibbing or fudging what we did wrong.  We played extremely poorly offensively in transition for the first 17 minutes, and finally got a true transition make-- our second in the game, because they were being kind with a bucket at about the 16 minute mark where we took the shot relatively early in the shot clock off a turnover--    and that was pretty much it.

We didn't play any faster.    We simply hit shots in the half court offense.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

BoarnSupremacy

March 19, 2017, 06:16:46 pm #22
IMO we need to press and press some more.  They made mistakes late 1st half.  We cant rebound with them so the only other option is to try to get ball between the lines.  Cmon Kingsley!  Sit Beard since he is almost worthless.

AFWarrior83

March 19, 2017, 06:16:53 pm #23
It's simple, we hit shots, we can win. And we need to put some bodies on peeps down low. I don't care how our tempo goes, as long as we hit shots and rebound.
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Boardon Hamsay

March 19, 2017, 06:17:26 pm #24
In before son of all things speed up!!!!! merged
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ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:19:52 pm #25
Quote from: AFWarrior83 on March 19, 2017, 06:16:53 pm
It's simple, we hit shots, we can win. And we need to put some bodies on peeps down low. I don't care how our tempo goes, as long as we hit shots and rebound.

We were shooting in the low 30s, like UNC is, until that last little run.

The way to beat UNC is using the model other teams that beat them have- slow it down, make them grind out possessions, do all you can to keep them off the offensive glass, and knock down 3s and FTs
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

rtr

March 19, 2017, 06:20:28 pm #26
I think we should press the entire 2nd half, they don't handle the ball that well.  As for playing to keep our margin of defeat under 20 pts.  That is a loser mentality, I for one am sick of.
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ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 06:20:55 pm #27
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:12:56 pm
You don't beat great teams  by doing what they do best, and what you don't do particularly well.

We're not a  true speed it up team-- and UNC is the best in the country at that.    We've not been the Fastest 40 in a long while.

What we are, is a good halfcourt offense that feasts at the foul line and that needs to avoid prolonged shooting droughts.

Bud, I have been a successful coach. You do what you do even if it is comfortable for a better team because if you were at your best playing the opposite of who you are you would already be playing that way primarily.

We play with pace and it helps us execute going down the stretch. We are more efficient in the second half offensively because we are able to push pace.

I think you might not understand what I mean by speeding up either. I am talking about sprinting in transition on offense and exploring fast break opportunities, not jacking up transition 3's.

We are not a good low energy team. It causes us to stand around offensively and be bad in defensive transition.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:27:55 pm #28
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 06:20:55 pm
Bud, I have been a successful coach. You do what you do even if it is comfortable for a better team because if you were at your best playing the opposite of who you are you would already be playing that way primarily.

We play with pace and it helps us execute going down the stretch. We are more efficient in the second half offensively because we are able to push pace.

I think you might not understand what I mean by speeding up either. I am talking about sprinting in transition on offense and exploring fast break opportunities, not jacking up transition 3's.

We are not a good low energy team. It causes us to stand around offensively and be bad in defensive transition.

Don't call me 'bud'.   If you've coached, you'd know better than the drivel you're spouting.

We haven't played with pace against any team we were even relatively even in talent against in a long while.  We've been a half court team that feasts at the foul line pretty much all year.  That's who we are.    We've scored a lot of points because we have shot FT extremely well, and have had the 3rd or 4th best 3 point shooting season as a team that we've had in the last 20 years.

We are getting our butts kicked up and down the floor in transition;   we've executed *significantly* better in the half court offensively, than we have converting  in transition, even when going to the rim.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

passinghog

March 19, 2017, 06:29:42 pm #29
Erie, Carolina doesn't have good ball handlers. So if their turnovers results on transition for us, that's what I think most people are referring to. Our press has only looked this good against teams with subpar ball handlers

ShadowHawg

March 19, 2017, 06:30:37 pm #30
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:27:55 pm
Don't call me 'bud'.   If you've coached, you'd know better than the drivel you're spouting.

We haven't played with pace against any team we were even relatively even in talent against in a long while.  We've been a half court team that feasts at the foul line pretty much all year.  That's who we are.    We've scored a lot of points because we have shot FT extremely well, and have had the 3rd or 4th best 3 point shooting season as a team that we've had in the last 20 years.

We are getting our butts kicked up and down the floor in transition;   we've executed *significantly* better in the half court offensively, than we have converting  in transition, even when going to the rim.

Are you still trying to claim the game hasn't sped up?

apcapri

March 19, 2017, 06:30:49 pm #31
According to Mike Anderson the run at the end of the half was because we picked up our pace and started playing faster.

LZH

March 19, 2017, 06:31:39 pm #32
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 06:20:55 pm
Bud, I have been a successful coach.

Whoa!  Look out...successful coach in the house.

Erie, you need to pay attention...Bud.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:33:58 pm #33
Quote from: Showtimehog on March 19, 2017, 06:29:42 pm
Erie, Carolina doesn't have good ball handlers. So if their turnovers results on transition for us, that's what I think most people are referring to. Our press has only looked this good against teams with subpar ball handlers

Carolina doesn't have good ball handlers?

SMH.

Carolina  has excellent ball handlers, and despite playing at pace, turns the ball over about the same amount as we do--  in per possession comparisons, they're better at not turning the ball over than we are.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:34:43 pm #34
Quote from: ShadowHawg on March 19, 2017, 06:30:37 pm
Are you still trying to claim the game hasn't sped up?

Watch the possessions where we make up ground.  It is when we slow things down.

We speed up, other than that last Thomas score, and we lose ground.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:35:24 pm #35
Speed up, miss multiple times at the rim.

Same old, same old.  Play transition with Carolina, and get nothing.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

rtr

March 19, 2017, 06:37:53 pm #36
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:35:24 pm
Speed up, miss multiple times at the rim.

Same old, same old.  Play transition with Carolina, and get nothing.
Keep digging.
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ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:38:24 pm #37
Quote from: rtr on March 19, 2017, 06:37:53 pm
Keep digging.

Keep burying, you mean.    The numbers never lie-- no matter how much we wish they did.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

passinghog

March 19, 2017, 06:39:27 pm #38
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:33:58 pm
Carolina doesn't have good ball handlers?

SMH.

Carolina  has excellent ball handlers, and despite playing at pace, turns the ball over about the same amount as we do--  in per possession comparisons, they're better at not turning the ball over than we are.

Teams with good ball handlers eat our press up. They're soft with the basketball. Whatever numbers you want to cream about, the eye test shows they're rattled by our hand activity and soft.

rtr

March 19, 2017, 06:40:01 pm #39
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:38:24 pm
Keep burying, you mean.    The numbers never lie-- no matter how much we wish they did.
Now, you are seeing things.  So I will cease and desist in this discussion.  Go Hogs Go :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:
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azhog10

March 19, 2017, 06:40:21 pm #40
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 05:49:34 pm
Yes.   And I've been watching the game as well-- the faster it goes, the more UNC exploits it-- they're killing us in transition.
Clearly not. The faster the game has gotten the better it's gone for us.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:40:27 pm #41
Quote from: Showtimehog on March 19, 2017, 06:39:27 pm
Teams with good ball handlers eat our press up. They're soft with the basketball. Whatever numbers you want to cream about, the eye test shows they're rattled by our hand activity and soft.

The 'eye test' is how you lose games.   

They're a bit fatigued, which is good.  They have a hobbled PG-- which is also good. 

They also continue to kick our butts in transition basketball, even when fatigued.  That's not good.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:41:32 pm #42
Quote from: azhog10 on March 19, 2017, 06:40:21 pm
Clearly not. The faster the game has gotten the better it's gone for us.

The game hasn't gotten faster, though.   Watch the shot clock, and when we're taking these things.  We've converted halfcourt opportunities much better, and UNC hasn't been able to fall out of a boat and hit water, except in some transition opportunities.  That's the entire difference in the game
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

passinghog

March 19, 2017, 06:42:44 pm #43
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:40:27 pm
The 'eye test' is how you lose games.   

They're a bit fatigued, which is good.  They have a hobbled PG-- which is also good. 

They also continue to kick our butts in transition basketball, even when fatigued.  That's not good.

The only thing that matters is when we play them, which is today. If their best pg is by far their best ball handler, WHEN WE PLAY THEM, they don't have good ball handlers.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:44:53 pm #44
Quote from: Showtimehog on March 19, 2017, 06:42:44 pm
The only thing that matters is when we play them, which is today. If their best pg is by far their best ball handler, WHEN WE PLAY THEM, they don't have good ball handlers.

They've had relatively few turnovers today, even with hobbled guards.  Most of our turnovers forced today have been like that last little one with the Beard 3--  them not clearing the ball off the boards to the guards.

That said, we're also converting our transition opportunities better now, as well-- but it is still a very big mistake to play pace with UNC--- the only offense they're really managing right now is in transition.     If we manage them on the offensive glass these last 10 minutes, they're going to struggle to score.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Boardon Hamsay

March 19, 2017, 06:48:17 pm #45
This thread is awesome. Good work.
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azhog10

March 19, 2017, 06:49:21 pm #46
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:41:32 pm
The game hasn't gotten faster, though.   Watch the shot clock, and when we're taking these things.  We've converted halfcourt opportunities much better, and UNC hasn't been able to fall out of a boat and hit water, except in some transition opportunities.  That's the entire difference in the game
Are you serious? The game changed when we started pressing and pushing missed shots. Just let it go, faster is better today.

ErieHog

March 19, 2017, 06:50:51 pm #47
Quote from: azhog10 on March 19, 2017, 06:49:21 pm
Are you serious? The game changed when we started pressing and pushing missed shots. Just let it go, faster is better today.

Faster is worse.   We want this game to stay in the 70 point range.

Go possession by possession through the game-- though we are converting much better in transition than we did early, the entire difference is in half court efficiency--  UNC has been godawful, and we've been pretty solid.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

BoarnSupremacy

March 19, 2017, 06:51:02 pm #48
Go faster  Go faster

BoarnSupremacy

March 19, 2017, 06:53:08 pm #49
Quote from: ErieHog on March 19, 2017, 06:50:51 pm
Faster is worse.   We want this game to stay in the 70 point range.

Go possession by possession through the game-- though we are converting much better in transition than we did early, the entire difference is in half court efficiency--  UNC has been godawful, and we've been pretty solid.


You gotta be kidding.  You think we are winning the half court game?
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