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Title: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: "Boar" on November 28, 2016, 10:38:19 pm
And one stock to buy...

What would you do?  Amazon, hertz, what you got for a December 2016 buy with your play stash?
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HawgWild on November 29, 2016, 08:23:43 am
My two most recent stock purchases, RF & NUE, have done very well returning 22% & 27%, respectively, in the last month. I think they'll continue to climb but I would be reluctant to add after this quick of a run-up.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HiggiePiggy on November 30, 2016, 10:38:46 pm
20k. I think I would go with CEFL at 16.15

I would be able to buy 1238 shares.  It does a dividend of 24 to 32cents a share every month.

Would be 297.12 extra a month at 24 cents.  So low end 3,565.44 in a year

Or go with BDCL which is 18.54 a share. So it would be 1078 which it has a dividend of 70 cents every quarter.  So 754.60 every 3 months which would be 3018.4 in a year.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HiggiePiggy on November 30, 2016, 10:44:42 pm
Or OXLC. It is 11.51 a share. I would be able to buy 1737 shares at 60 cent dividend every quarter. So 1042.2 every quarter for 4168.8 in a year.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: ricepig on December 01, 2016, 08:17:58 am
Those are some great dividend yields, I assume they've been paying them regularly? I'm a dividend guy, I hadn't ventured into something that exotic, might be worth throwing a bone or two, I do a little research.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HiggiePiggy on December 01, 2016, 10:18:52 am
Those are some great dividend yields, I assume they've been paying them regularly? I'm a dividend guy, I hadn't ventured into something that exotic, might be worth throwing a bone or two, I do a little research.

Im not much of a person that knows about stocks. What I have been doing is finding dividend stocks that are cheap because I only put 30 a week into the market on robinhood. This is the site I go to find dividend stocks.

http://www.nasdaq.com/dividend-stocks/


This is what OXLC has done since 2011 as far as dividends go. The others you can look up by typing in there symbol.  I am at work now so don't have much time.

http://m.nasdaq.com/symbol/oxlc/dividend-history
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: ricepig on December 01, 2016, 11:40:53 am
Im not much of a person that knows about stocks. What I have been doing is finding dividend stocks that are cheap because I only put 30 a week into the market on robinhood. This is the site I go to find dividend stocks.

http://www.nasdaq.com/dividend-stocks/


This is what OXLC has done since 2011 as far as dividends go. The others you can look up by typing in there symbol.  I am at work now so don't have much time.

http://m.nasdaq.com/symbol/oxlc/dividend-history


Well, I'm a dividend player, I've made my hay, and want the best return on my money. I've been in several REIT's and others that pay a decent return. I don't put much in to speculation, or just a small % of my portfolio.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HiggiePiggy on December 01, 2016, 12:23:45 pm
Well, I'm a dividend player, I've made my hay, and want the best return on my money. I've been in several REIT's and others that pay a decent return. I don't put much in to speculation, or just a small % of my portfolio.

Well the site I gave you has a lot of stocks that have dividend.

I really should take the time to learn more about them, but I feel pretty good with what I have done so far.  I started January of this year. Had a stock fall all the way to 38 cents so bought 1500 shares of it and ended up selling at 1.20.  SXE.  Went all the way up to 3.20 before falling back to what it is now 1.40.  Sucked I sold at 1.20 because it dropped from 1.60 and then a couple of weeks after I sold it went up over 3.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: ricepig on December 01, 2016, 12:36:38 pm
Well the site I gave you has a lot of stocks that have dividend.

I really should take the time to learn more about them, but I feel pretty good with what I have done so far.  I started January of this year. Had a stock fall all the way to 38 cents so bought 1500 shares of it and ended up selling at 1.20.  SXE.  Went all the way up to 3.20 before falling back to what it is now 1.40.  Sucked I sold at 1.20 because it dropped from 1.60 and then a couple of weeks after I sold it went up over 3.

Oh, I know the usual sites for dividends, some of those yields had me thinking twice though on continuing them. I've had a couple oil related stocks cut their's, so I try to be careful.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HiggiePiggy on December 01, 2016, 02:24:34 pm
Oh, I know the usual sites for dividends, some of those yields had me thinking twice though on continuing them. I've had a couple oil related stocks cut their's, so I try to be careful.

Yeah I have some that have dropped in dividend.  The 3 I mentioned above have done well though and are all under 20 dollars a share. 
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: LCAPTP on December 01, 2016, 02:26:54 pm
CL or GE
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: ricepig on December 01, 2016, 02:34:06 pm
CL or GE

Well, I wouldn't play with those, I've got both and have had them for 15 years, they are buy, and never look at them again stocks.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: LCAPTP on December 01, 2016, 03:35:07 pm
Well, I wouldn't play with those, I've got both and have had them for 15 years, they are buy, and never look at them again stocks.

GE up 2.05% today! whoo whoo!
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HoginMemphis on May 16, 2017, 08:59:25 am
Even thought most of the defense stocks are at all time highs, I'd put half of that $20K into a couple of them. Defense spending is about to rise. And looks very possible we are about to have a major conflict in one of two spots around the world. Defense companies, like the gov't, are always going to do well over the long haul.

I'd put the other half into energy related stocks, whether it be a few individual equities or a couple of energy ETFs. The oil and nat gas field service companies will look very cheap when oil begins to go up in price: NOV, SLB, BHI, HAL. Of course, anyone can argue that currently they are at premium valuations. But I would be buying for the future valuations, not for current obviously.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on May 16, 2017, 10:01:27 am
And one stock to buy...

What would you do?  Amazon, hertz, what you got for a December 2016 buy with your play stash?
Sorry, but being a former financial advisor I have one very YUGH pet peeve: more than once I would have a client say something like "Hey, I have $xxx to "play with" what do you recommend"? My response: "Well I can assure you that I don't 'play' with your money; if you want to 'play' then go to the track or the casino. Otherwise, if you actually want to INVEST your money then let's talk". While I understand your intent, I obviously have a real issue with the wording. While any investment involves risk, you don't 'play' with money unless you really want to look at it as something 'fun' and you're merely looking to very possibly 'piss it away'. Now if you want to actually INVEST then that's a whole different issue.

Besides what is appropriate for someone else may be totally inappropriate for you. Much depends on your time horizon, overall financial situation, liquidity needs, risk tolerance, etc. Anyone can throw out a name or two and have no idea or appreciation what your personal situation may be. I think investing should be far more diligent/responsible than that, and that doesn't matter how much or little money one has.

One other bit of long time investment wisdom that everyone would IMO be very well advised to remember: "When the tide (market) comes in (advances) virtually all swimmers (stocks) rise with it. However, it's only when the tide eventually goes out (market declines) that we find out which of those bodies are actually naked"(bad investments). While it's been great to ride the wave(s) of recent market advances, and that may continue for a while, there will be a day of reckoning when things inevitably correct, at least for a time. It's only then will our approach to investments be truly tested and proven to be appropriate or not. Besides, do any of us really know your situation better than yourself ??? I seriously doubt it.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on May 29, 2017, 11:40:50 pm
If I'm gambling with play money and don't care if I lose it all then I'm going over to the OTC market. I'd put half into BVTK and the other half into BTGI and role the dice.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on May 30, 2017, 11:46:19 am
If I'm gambling with play money and don't care if I lose it all then I'm going over to the OTC market. I'd put half into BVTK and the other half into BTGI and role the dice.
Now THERE'S some really quality stuff.  :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

BTW if you're REALLY interested in possibly making some money then check out a couple of biotech companies with the symbols TGTX and COOL. While they might actually cost you some real money, not fractions of cents, they also might just also give you a legitimate shot at making some as well.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on May 31, 2017, 03:06:09 pm
''Twas a nice day to sell BTGI shares. FUN I tell ya...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 02, 2017, 10:58:45 am
Now THERE'S some really quality stuff.  :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

BTW if you're REALLY interested in possibly making some money then check out a couple of biotech companies with the symbols TGTX and COOL. While they might actually cost you some real money, not fractions of cents, they also might just also give you a legitimate shot at making some as well.
I looked up COOL and it appears to be a video game company. TGTX is up over 10% since your post. You really move the market. :)
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 02, 2017, 11:58:12 am
I looked up COOL and it appears to be a video game company. TGTX is up over 10% since your post. You really move the market. :)
You might want to check your source(s) again. I can promise you that COOL is the symbol for the biotech company PolarityTE. And as far as TGTX is concerned, the simple to its move is very simple. As I am the personal financial advisor to Warren Buffett, Bill Gates and others my recommendations do carry some "juice". ;) ;) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :) :D ;D
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 02, 2017, 01:08:37 pm
You might want to check your source(s) again. I can promise you that COOL is the symbol for the biotech company PolarityTE. And as far as TGTX is concerned, the simple to its move is very simple. As I am the personal financial advisor to Warren Buffett, Bill Gates and others my recommendations do carry some "juice". ;) ;) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :) :D ;D
This is what Yahoo Finance says:

PolarityTE, Inc. develops, publishes, markets, and distributes video game products for casual-game consumers and independent game developer fans worldwide. The company publishes video games for various interactive entertainment hardware platforms through its Midnight City label, including Nintendo’s DS, DSi, 3DS, Wii and WiiU, Sony’s PlayStation 3 and 4, Microsoft’s Xbox 360 and Xbox One, and the personal computers. It also engages in the digital software distribution and licensing business. The company was formerly known as Majesco Entertainment Company and changed its name to PolarityTE, Inc. in January 2017. PolarityTE, Inc. was founded in 1998 and is headquartered in South Plainfield, New Jersey.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HawgWild on June 02, 2017, 01:21:17 pm
That doesn't sound too bio techy to me.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 02, 2017, 03:56:04 pm
This is what Yahoo Finance says:

PolarityTE, Inc. develops, publishes, markets, and distributes video game products for casual-game consumers and independent game developer fans worldwide. The company publishes video games for various interactive entertainment hardware platforms through its Midnight City label, including Nintendoís DS, DSi, 3DS, Wii and WiiU, Sonyís PlayStation 3 and 4, Microsoftís Xbox 360 and Xbox One, and the personal computers. It also engages in the digital software distribution and licensing business. The company was formerly known as Majesco Entertainment Company and changed its name to PolarityTE, Inc. in January 2017. PolarityTE, Inc. was founded in 1998 and is headquartered in South Plainfield, New Jersey.
Well as good as Yahoo might be most times, this is NOT one for them. If you consult an investment site such as one offered by Bank of America you would find the following: "PolarityTE, formerly known as Majesco Entertainment Company, is the owner of patient applications and know-how related to regenerative medicine and tissue engineering, as well as software used in the diagnosis and treatment related to regenerative medicine". So......there you go, as you can see I am NOT making this whole thing up. In fact, I have had the opportunity to meet several of the company's "big dogs" and have come away extremely impressed with what they're doing. Many of their scientists and other medical folks have backgrounds out of Stanford and Harvard Business School. However, far more importantly, it appears they've actually been able to develop a unique stem cell technology to treat and regenerate damage caused by skin burns, even those of the most life treating form:third degree. Using the body's own stem cell production these guys/gals have been able to not only grow back skin lost due to burns, but have done so in many cases WITHOUT scarring; they've even perfected it to a degree that depending on the area of the body hair follicles are restored which allows for the regrowth of hair. If you've ever seen (or experienced) a bad burn I can promise you that this could be a truly revolutionary break through. If their initial successes can not only be built upon but expanded, think of the demand and additional applications (burn recovery is only the tip of the iceberg) such use of stem cell technology could command. Also think of the possibility that some much bigger pharma/biotech company might want to "scoop up" such a company for its own portfolio. Believe me or not, this is an exceptionally interesting concept and idea and as futuristic high tech as many in its own right.

One additional aside: while the company's main work up to this point has been in the area of skin regeneration, they are also working on the possible replacement of bones, muscles, cartilage, blood vessels and nerves. Just imagine the potential of such possible future success in any/all of these areas. If you still remain unconvinced then I obviously can't help ya'.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 02, 2017, 04:02:34 pm
Well as good as Yahoo might be most times, this is NOT one for them. If you consult and investment site such as one offered by Bank of America you would find the following: PolarityTE, formerly known as Majesco Entertainment Company, is the owner of patient applications and know-how related to regenerative medicine and tissue engineering, as well as software used in the diagnosis and treatment related to regenerative medicine". So......there you go, as you can see I am NOT making this whole thing up. In fact, I have had the opportunity to meet several of the company's "big dogs" and have come away extremely impressed with what they're doing. Many of their scientists and other medical folks have backgrounds out of Stanford and Harvard Business School. However, far more importantly, it appears they've actually been able to develop a unique stem cell technology to treat and regenerate damage caused by skin burns, even those of the most life treating form:third degree. Using the body's own stem cell production these guys/gals have been able to not only grow back skin lost due to burns, but have done so in many cases WITHOUT scarring; they've even perfected it to a degree that depending on the area of the body hair follicles are restored with allows for the regrow of hair. If you ever seen (or experienced) a bad burn I can promise you that this could be a truly revolutionary break through. If their initial successes can not only be built upon but expanded, think of the demand and additional applications (burn recovery is only the tip of the iceberg) such use of stem cell technology could command. Also think of the possibility that some much bigger pharma/biotech company might want to "scoop up" such a company for its own portfolio. Believe me or not, this is an exceptionally interesting concept and idea and as futuristic high tech as many in its own right.
I didn't mean to imply you were making it up or anything to that effect. Just found it odd Yahoo's description.

I recently bought MZOR and ISRG. Both deal with robotic surgery and have had big run ups, I'm hoping there's more left.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 02, 2017, 04:06:08 pm
In looking further, PolarityTE bought Majesco Entertainment (video game maker) in a reverse merger last year.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 02, 2017, 04:10:52 pm
I didn't mean to imply you were making it up or anything to that effect. Just found it odd Yahoo's description.

I recently bought MZOR and ISRG. Both deal with robotic surgery and have had big run ups, I'm hoping there's more left.
Very well could be. I can PROMISE you one thing though: these two are fairly widely covered by research and Wall Street. COOL certainly isn't. And while that means absolutely NOTHING when it comes to future potential profits or stock performance, how many folks would have given their total fortune to find another Apple, Facebook, Amazon or others before the big investment monies found them? Again, I'm NOT saying this is by any mean any of those in the making; however, it does get one's mental gears rolling and tumbling and certainly tickles the imagination.

I CAN promise you one thing, however. IF these folks continue their progress in this area of research (and others) they WON'T be unknown or "under the radar" for long. The old saying that "the world will beat down your door for a better mouse trap" has a lot going for it in reality.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 02, 2017, 04:18:01 pm
Very well could be. I can PROMISE you one thing though: these two are fairly widely covered by research and Wall Street. COOL certainly isn't. And while that means absolutely NOTHING when it comes to future potential profits or stock performance, how many folks would have given their total fortune to find another Apple, Facebook, Amazon or others before the big investment monies found them? Again, I'm NOT saying this is by any mean any of those in the making; however, it does get one's mental gears rolling and tumbling and certainly tickles the imagination.

I CAN promise you one thing, however. IF these folks continue their progress in this area of research (and others) they WON'T be unknown or "under the radar" for long. The old saying that "the world will beat down your door for a better mouse trap" has a lot going for it in reality.
I appreciate the insight. I'm going to invest a few dollars in it.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 02, 2017, 04:19:09 pm
I looked up COOL and it appears to be a video game company. TGTX is up over 10% since your post. You really move the market. :)
Did you happen to notice what happened to TGTX today? Up $2.02 a share (17.37%) and still not at a year high. This could really get interesting........and not trying to "nickel and dime" ourselves with a penny stock that's barely alive.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 02, 2017, 09:29:13 pm
Did you happen to notice what happened to TGTX today? Up $2.02 a share (17.37%) and still not at a year high. This could really get interesting........and not trying to "nickel and dime" ourselves with a penny stock that's barely alive.
I did see that. What do you mean about the "nickel and dime" stock?
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 02, 2017, 11:56:08 pm
I did see that. What do you mean about the "nickel and dime" stock?
Well read into it what you will. And while I realize under the right circumstances it's possible to make money with virtually any stock, this idea sure beats the heck out of one that was mentioned earlier this week that has traded around a penny (or less) per share. I mean what kind of money can one really really realize when a stock closes around .0045 cents or another that closed today at .0013C ??? ??? Come on........I see it all the time: folks who want to buy stocks at a couple bucks a share (or less) and dream of really making a pot load of money. Can it happen-yep, about as often as winning the national lottery; however, I prefer to stack the odds in my favor. I try to find companies that actually have a product or service that really has some exciting current and/or future uses; hopefully it represents a break through and/or upgrade to something already in existence. In order to do this one normally has to actually put some legitimate money to work and hang on, and try NOT to trade at every nickel or dime a stock moves up or down. Back to my oft used example of Apple. No doubt I could have traded in and out of that stock a hundred or more times over the years. And while I took my initial investment out years ago, and am essentially using the markets money, I plan to stay with this position as long as the company continues rolling out new products and remains on the cutting edge of technology. There are scores of other companies-both in and out of the technology and healthcare sector- that fit these exact perimeters. The key is doing your research, looking out and trying to identify trends that will continue to grow down the road in need and popularity, and then having the courage to persist AS LONG AS THE REASON(S) FOR THE INITIAL INVESTMENT HOLDS TRUE. BTW this doesn't necessarily entail having a pot full of money to do so. Look at it this way: a 10%, 20%, 30% or whatever return on any priced equity one chooses to invest means the same no matter what the initial purchase price...all rest is in the head. Sorry, end of lecture.....  ::) :-X
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 03, 2017, 08:17:26 am
Well read into it what you will. And while I realize under the right circumstances it's possible to make money with virtually any stock, this idea sure beats the heck out of one that was mentioned earlier this week that has traded around a penny (or less) per share. I mean what kind of money can one really really realize when a stock closes around .0045 cents or another that closed today at .0013C ??? ??? Come on........I see it all the time: folks who want to buy stocks at a couple bucks a share (or less) and dream of really making a pot load of money. Can it happen-yep, about as often as winning the national lottery; however, I prefer to stack the odds in my favor. I try to find companies that actually have a product or service that really has some exciting current and/or future uses; hopefully it represents a break through and/or upgrade to something already in existence. In order to do this one normally has to actually put some legitimate money to work and hang on, and try NOT to trade at every nickel or dime a stock moves up or down. Back to my oft used example of Apple. No doubt I could have traded in and out of that stock a hundred or more times over the years. And while I took my initial investment out years ago, and am essentially using the markets money, I plan to stay with this position as long as the company continues rolling out new products and remains on the cutting edge of technology. There are scores of other companies-both in and out of the technology and healthcare sector- that fit these exact perimeters. The key is doing your research, looking out and trying to identify trends that will continue to grow down the road in need and popularity, and then having the courage to persist AS LONG AS THE REASON(S) FOR THE INITIAL INVESTMENT HOLDS TRUE. BTW this doesn't necessarily entail having a pot full of money to do so. Look at it this way: a 10%, 20%, 30% or whatever return on any priced equity one chooses to invest means the same no matter what the initial purchase price...all rest is in the head. Sorry, end of lecture.....  ::) :-X
Oh, I agree with all of that. I don't mess with OTC or Pink Sheets. Too many shenanigans. Only NYSE or NASDAQ, and even then I only buy individual stocks with a small percentage of my portfolio. I make a living doing other things, so I don't expect I can routinely beat the folks who are in the market for a living.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 03, 2017, 10:27:20 am
Oh, I agree with all of that. I don't mess with OTC or Pink Sheets. Too many shenanigans. Only NYSE or NASDAQ, and even then I only buy individual stocks with a small percentage of my portfolio. I make a living doing other things, so I don't expect I can routinely beat the folks who are in the market for a living.
Wise my man, wise....And as to those folks who "are in the market for a living"......you might be shocked how some of them aren't exactly doing well enough to live like kings.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on June 03, 2017, 12:43:43 pm
Somebody got their feelings hurt doo dah doo dah...
Somebody got their feelings hurt doo dah doo dah...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on June 03, 2017, 03:03:28 pm
Ewe arre an ideeote.
Play the percentages..
Sum peeple arr tue damn smawt
Tou maik muny
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on June 04, 2017, 06:31:57 pm
Ther exist KINGZ today that would kiss your ass and let you choose their daughters over aluminum lawn chairs and ice cream...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 08, 2017, 10:49:10 am
I appreciate the insight. I'm going to invest a few dollars in it.
Quick update on the stock just in case you may have missed it. Earlier today the company announced that they will begin human trials starting in the 3rd quarter this year on its process to regrow human hair around/on burn sites. This obviously gave some real life to the stock as it is currently up around 3% (54cents) this morning (currently trading around $18.54). Earlier today it reached a new 52 week high of $20.98! 8) 8) 8) :) ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 09, 2017, 10:22:59 am
Quick update on the stock just in case you may have missed it. Earlier today the company announced that they will begin human trials starting in the 3rd quarter this year on its process to regrow human hair around/on burn sites. This obviously gave some real life to the stock as it is currently up around 3% (54cents) this morning (currently trading around $18.54). Earlier today it reached a new 52 week high of $20.98! 8) 8) 8) :) ;) :D ;D
I may have waited too long for the short term pop. Back down into the $17s.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 09, 2017, 01:27:45 pm
I may have waited too long for the short term pop. Back down into the $17s.
Well this stock is obviously going to be very volatile. IF you're going to buy the stock would you prefer to buy it on the periodic pullbacks or what until it likely has another one of its runs when other folks are piling in? All I know is that the old adage of "buy low, sell high" most definitely works and not even just some of the time.   
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HiggiePiggy on June 09, 2017, 11:22:01 pm
Well this stock is obviously going to be very volatile. IF you're going to buy the stock would you prefer to buy it on the periodic pullbacks or what until it likely has another one of its runs when other folks are piling in? All I know is that the old adage of "buy low, sell high" most definitely works and not even just some of the time.   

I bought a stock for 38 cents. Went up to 3.50. Didn't sell. Dropped back to 60 cents. Then went back to 1.23 so I sold.  It is now trading at about 4 dollars a share. SXE. I made about 1100 profit off of it.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 09, 2017, 11:31:38 pm
I bought a stock for 38 cents. Went up to 3.50. Didn't sell. Dropped back to 60 cents. Then went back to 1.23 so I sold.  It is now trading at about 4 dollars a share. SXE. I made about 1100 profit off of it.
Old Confucius observation: ANY profit no matter how large or small is a good one.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HiggiePiggy on June 09, 2017, 11:35:27 pm
Old Confucius observation: ANY profit no matter how large or small is a good one.

Oh yeah.  I was happy about it and I actually still have 100 shares of it.  I sold 1500 at 1.23
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: ricepig on June 10, 2017, 06:15:07 am
You can't go broke making a profit, or so I've been told.......
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 10, 2017, 10:52:28 am
You can't go broke making a profit, or so I've been told.......
Yep, that's yet another bit of wisdom that's been around a while. Gosh, I wonder why ??? ::) ;) 8)
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 21, 2017, 10:07:40 am
I may have waited too long for the short term pop. Back down into the $17s.
Well I hope the pullback a week or so back that took the stock back into the $16.50 area was seen as an opportunity to BUY, not sell. The position that I "doubled up" on on 6/13 @ $16.59 is now trading up 61 cents (3.05%) this morning with the last price at $20.60 (up a little over 20%). This is approaching the yearly high we saw about a month ago at $20.98. I mention this because it points out that often a correction on a stock shouldn't be viewed as a sell; rather, it should be used as an opportunity to "beat against the house" at the moment. Obviously this depends on whether or not anything fundamentally has changed to account for any weakness. In other words, you often have to judge and determine whether or not the market is telling you there's something wrong from an earnings, operational, managerial, etc. basis or the market just "jerking you around". While I realize it's sometimes difficult to distinguish the two, in this case the company's trials concerning their burn therapy is proceeding apace. And THAT'S what I'm banking on.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 21, 2017, 11:28:44 am
Well I hope the pullback a week or so back that took the stock back into the $16.50 area was seen as an opportunity to BUY, not sell. The position that I "doubled up" on on 6/13 @ $16.59 is now trading up 61 cents (3.05%) this morning with the last price at $20.60 (up a little over 20%). This is approaching the yearly high we saw about a month ago at $20.98. I mention this because it points out that often a correction on a stock shouldn't be viewed as a sell; rather, it should be used as an opportunity to "beat against the house" at the moment. Obviously this depends on whether or not anything fundamentally has changed to account for any weakness. In other words, you often have to judge and determine whether or not the market is telling you there's something wrong from an earnings, operational, managerial, etc. basis or the market just "jerking you around". While I realize it's sometimes difficult to distinguish the two, in this case the company's trials concerning their burn therapy is proceeding apace. And THAT'S what I'm banking on.
I held tight through the drop and am enjoying the recent price increase. Thanks for the recommendation.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 21, 2017, 11:40:13 am
I held tight through the drop and am enjoying the recent price increase. Thanks for the recommendation.
No problem. Always delighted to help folks make money. 8) :)
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: ricepig on June 21, 2017, 07:25:45 pm
No problem. Always delighted to help folks make money. 8) :)

Why can't my 35 different stocks in my portfolio all go up at the same time? I'll hang up and listen.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 21, 2017, 10:36:43 pm
Why can't my 35 different stocks in my portfolio all go up at the same time? I'll hang up and listen.
Gosh, you're way dumber than I thought. ;) And here I was thinking you are actually brilliant.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: ricepig on June 22, 2017, 06:54:53 am
Gosh, you're way dumber than I thought. ;) And here I was thinking you are actually brilliant.

I didn't think you'd know.......
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 22, 2017, 04:49:01 pm
I held tight through the drop and am enjoying the recent price increase. Thanks for the recommendation.
An interesting develop today on COOL. While there wasn't any specific company information/news, there was obviously some exciting stuff when it came to the price action. Stock finished up another $3.61 (+17.66%) at a closing price of $24.05 after reaching an intraday high of $24.8753. Obviously the huge move and new high are nice, however, what makes it even more interesting is that the volume today was around 427k shares. This compares to the normal volume of around 192K. Therefore not only was the stock obviously being accumulated, but it was being done on roughly 2.25 times the average trading volume. When new highs are combined with large accumulation you typically have the best of both worlds.

Going forward it should be interesting what might develop. Once a stock breaks its old "resistance" level and makes an all-time high then the fun could just be getting started.   
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 22, 2017, 07:13:05 pm
I think today is the biggest one-day increase I've ever had on a stock.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 22, 2017, 07:13:57 pm
I think today is the biggest one-day increase I've ever had on a stock.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 23, 2017, 09:42:06 am
COOL is up $3 today. This stock has paid for my Hogville membership.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on June 23, 2017, 04:06:22 pm
COOL is up $3 today. This stock has paid for my Hogville membership.
Glad you got enough money to pay for HV. After all, that's THE most important thing in life ;) ;D :)!.

 Today's stock action most certainly validates yesterday's move with another HUGE volume day exceeding Thursday's. Some 513K shares changed hands with the stock only closing up $3.87 (another 16%) at $27.92 after trading as high as $29.36 earlier. I've been trying to reach out to my sources who can likely shed some light on exactly where all the buying is coming from. With this kind of volume ALL on the upside it hints of either huge hedge fund/ETF accumulation or a possible "play" being made on the company. Not sure whether either and/or both is happening; next week should perhaps tell us more. In the meantime I suppose one should just sit back and enjoy the ride, whatever the source of the "fuel" for journey upwards might be.

One other possibility that might, but I somewhat doubt, explain the frantic movement over the last day or so. As of  earlier this week there were some 310k shares, representing a little over 5.25% of the 5.877 million outstanding shares, sold "short"(i.e. the short interest). In case you're not familiar with that term: a short seller "borrows" stock (paying interest on the loan's value with borrowed monies aka known as margin) and bets that the stock-the borrowed shares-he sold at one price will decline in value. He can then hopefully buy back the borrowed stock at a lower price and repay the loan. It's merely the verse of "buying low, selling high". The problem is that IF the stock borrowed/sold DOESN'T decline then eventually there's likely to be a "short squeeze" wherein the borrower is forced to make a decision as to whether or not to maintain the "short" position. If he guesses wrong and the stock continues to climb it will obviously cost more and more money to give (buy) back the borrowed stock. Hence, the term "short squeeze". My "gut" tells me that the last couple of day's price move likely doesn't have to do with a "short squeeze" play. However, the short interest-the reported number of borrowed shares-won't be known for several more days. Only then will that possibility be more fully known.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on June 29, 2017, 11:58:57 am
I got out of COOL at $27.95. Thinking about a reentry spot now that the stock has retreated.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on July 25, 2017, 08:34:49 pm
Bvtk has been good to me so far...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on July 26, 2017, 01:08:47 pm
I got out of COOL at $27.95. Thinking about a reentry spot now that the stock has retreated.
Still out and stock is around $20.50. As usual, I'm sure I won't pick the bottom.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on July 26, 2017, 02:08:07 pm
Still out and stock is around $20.50. As usual, I'm sure I won't pick the bottom.
99.999999% of the time one never does; same with the stock's market top. Remember that the market doesn't ring some magical bell to say "if you're going to buy you better get in now". Obviously the same with a potential top in a stock's price. Always somewhere in between.....the nature of the beast.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HawgWild on July 26, 2017, 02:46:44 pm
Remember that the market doesn't ring some magical bell to say "if you're going to buy you better get in now".

HiM did that with CHK a few years back with his "The ship is leaving you better get on board." post.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on July 26, 2017, 03:04:13 pm
HiM did that with CHK a few years back with his "The ship is leaving you better get on board." post.
Yeah, well HiM ain't the market.....obviously.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on July 26, 2017, 03:33:00 pm
I put a little into abhi at opening this morning.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on July 27, 2017, 07:49:59 am
After hours 8k could move BTGI north today...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on July 27, 2017, 06:16:59 pm
What are Tom Cellucci and Chuck Brooks doing leading a subpenny stock company?
How far will they take BVTK... Or are they just scamming people?
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on September 30, 2017, 04:01:55 am
What are Tom Cellucci and Chuck Brooks doing leading a subpenny stock company?
How far will they take BVTK... Or are they just scamming people?

I loaded millions of shares of BVTK back in Nov 2016 based purely on their leadership and the price per share. Still holding millions of shares that over 5000% gain.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on September 30, 2017, 04:05:49 am
I put a little into abhi at opening this morning.

Made 7k in Abhi last week and 1.5k yesterday. Looking to load again Monday.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on September 30, 2017, 04:15:29 am
If I'm gambling with play money and don't care if I lose it all then I'm going over to the OTC market. I'd put half into BVTK and the other half into BTGI and role the dice.

Was holding millions of shares of BTGI here at average entry of .0025 but am out with profits. Did have 20 lots from .0016 to .003...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on September 30, 2017, 06:44:49 am
I bawt 59 million shares in a company at .0001 this week. Was surprised that I was able to sell 6 mil shares at .0002 yesterday while a billion shares were stacked on the ask.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 04, 2017, 10:36:49 am
Even thought most of the defense stocks are at all time highs, I'd put half of that $20K into a couple of them. Defense spending is about to rise. And looks very possible we are about to have a major conflict in one of two spots around the world. Defense companies, like the gov't, are always going to do well over the long haul.

I'd put the other half into energy related stocks, whether it be a few individual equities or a couple of energy ETFs. The oil and nat gas field service companies will look very cheap when oil begins to go up in price: NOV, SLB, BHI, HAL. Of course, anyone can argue that currently they are at premium valuations. But I would be buying for the future valuations, not for current obviously.
In the 5 months since this comment, defense stocks have done well. Energy related stocks, not so much. Haven't declined though.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 04, 2017, 12:53:47 pm
In the 5 months since this comment, defense stocks have done well. Energy related stocks, not so much. Haven't declined though.
IMHO if someone truly has some patience (beyond the next five minutes or even month or so) I would begin selectively buying some of the better quality energy stocks. Are they likely to make you lots of money between now and the end of the year-not likely. However, if an investor truly has some time to wait AND has a little risk tolerance then I believe that some of them can begin to be accumulated with a twelve month (or less) time horizon involved. Several years for my thoughts.
 
 First, the price of oil has finally settled down around $50.00 a barrel. While this is obviously still well off the highs of several years ago, the price has shown very good support around this area. Remember for a commodity (like a stock) to go up, it must first wring out all the would be sellers. While there is still some manipulation going on, especially in the futures market with short sellers, the FUNDAMENTALS appear to have improved.

 Secondly, most would be marginal producers have either been driven out of business or have severely curtailed production. This in turn has most definitely helped the supple/demand imbalance that occurred during the huge run in energy prices several years ago. BTW anyone who thinks the demand for energy will decline/remain the same over the next 24-36 months (barring a major world-wide recession) had better get their heads out their collective rear ends. While alternative energy sources such as electric and solar are increasing, they will NOT totally replace/meet the rise in global energy demand and consumption over the next several years. Oil prices WILL RISE as a result.

 Third, while many gurus and investors worry about the market being "over valued", debatable for certain, at the same time most of the same don't want to take advantage of the sell off in energy stocks suffered over the past several years. While doubtless there have been solid reasons for the weaknesses, at the same time many don't recognize the necessary correction/consolidation in this area have healed much of the overcapacity and valuations that caused much of the recent "blood bath" to begin with. Yep, always amuses, but not necessarily surprises, me that the old market adage of "buy low and sell high" is rarely truly followed by so many investors. They'll complain about having to pay up for company's whose stock has (often) increased substantially, while totally ignoring sectors and company's who's fundamentals may actually justify some very serious consideration. Then again, the human "herd instinct" never ceases to prevail throughout the financial markets. At the same time many don't really have a true longer term time frame to begin with. Most seem to just settle for the "quick buck" as the primary method of constantly moving around their monies; at the same time so many of these same "investors" are complaining they don't to take risk with their monies. One question: what the hell do you think trying to "time the markets" is: a "free lunch"? ??? ::) :-X
 
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 05, 2017, 08:08:15 am
However, if an investor truly has some time to wait AND has a little risk tolerance then I believe that some of them can begin to be accumulated with a twelve month (or less) time horizon involved. Several years for my thoughts.

If you don't have a long term horizon and a high tolerance for risk, you should never own a single share of equity issued by a public company. That person could own stock in a private company so that their equity is not priced every second for 6 1/2 hours, 5 days a week.

80% of "investors" believe volatility is risk. It's not. Risk = permanent loss of capital and volatility is not permanent loss of capital. So many want all of the upside and none of the downside. If you are such a person, never own equities.

I don't know when energy price will move up. But I am very sure it is a matter of when, not if. And when it does, my clients are set to reap the rewards of owning energy-related equities. I did not have a client whose account was up less than 20% in 2016 when S&P 500 was up 9.5% (not including reinvested dividends) mostly thanks to performance of energy-related positions.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 05, 2017, 10:46:31 am
If you don't have a long term horizon and a high tolerance for risk, you should never own a single share of equity issued by a public company. That person could own stock in a private company so that their equity is not priced every second for 6 1/2 hours, 5 days a week.

80% of "investors" believe volatility is risk. It's not. Risk = permanent loss of capital and volatility is not permanent loss of capital. So many want all of the upside and none of the downside. If you are such a person, never own equities.

I don't know when energy price will move up. But I am very sure it is a matter of when, not if. And when it does, my clients are set to reap the rewards of owning energy-related equities. I did not have a client whose account was up less than 20% in 2016 when S&P 500 was up 9.5% (not including reinvested dividends) mostly thanks to performance of energy-related positions.
Much of what you say is true. However, I do take some exception with your comment/observation concerning a person owning stock in a private versus a public company. While it's certainly true that the former isn't priced on a regular basis, merely owning the latter obviously doesn't guarantee the lack of risk to capital. The fact that a private company's stock ISN'T priced on a regular basis means it's ILLIQUIDITY could most definitely present a problem depending on the TIMING of one's cash needs. The very fact that there is no active secondary market means the true valuation of the holding is far more difficult to establish AND the ability to convert the monies to cash based on the client's need is likely more difficult to achieve.

Ultimately, as in life, there are are no guarantees in the equity market. That's why I've always taken the approach, whether be with my personal monies or those of a client's, that one should NEVER, EVER risk any dollars that one can't absolutely afford to lose under the worst of circumstances. No matter how attractive the potential investment appears to be one has to ALWAYS be prepared for absolute armageddon. Do that and the ability to sleep soundly at night goes up exponentially.

 
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 05, 2017, 03:04:12 pm
Much of what you say is true. However, I do take some exception with your comment/observation concerning a person owning stock in a private versus a public company. While it's certainly true that the former isn't priced on a regular basis, merely owning the latter obviously doesn't guarantee the lack of risk to capital. The fact that a private company's stock ISN'T priced on a regular basis means it's ILLIQUIDITY could most definitely present a problem depending on the TIMING of one's cash needs. The very fact that there is no active secondary market means the true valuation of the holding is far more difficult to establish AND the ability to convert the monies to cash based on the client's need is likely more difficult to achieve.

Ultimately, as in life, there are are no guarantees in the equity market. That's why I've always taken the approach, whether be with my personal monies or those of a client's, that one should NEVER, EVER risk any dollars that one can't absolutely afford to lose under the worst of circumstances. No matter how attractive the potential investment appears to be one has to ALWAYS be prepared for absolute armageddon. Do that and the ability to sleep soundly at night goes up exponentially.
You must be a serious young man. You read a lot more into what I wrote than I meant.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 05, 2017, 04:02:04 pm
You must be a serious young man. You read a lot more into what I wrote than I meant.
Damn right I'm serious.....with both MY monies along with my clients. I seriously doubt most would have it any other way; let's face it: I can't imagine ANYONE wanting a financial advisor "playing" or "screwing around" with money. Oh yeah, one other thing: since you say I'm "reading more into what I (you) wrote than I (you) meant" please enlighten me. You see I try to carefully read and analyze everything one says prior to responding. So please explain in more detail exactly what I'm somehow misreading/misinterpreting.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 05, 2017, 11:02:27 pm
Damn right I'm serious.....with both MY monies along with my clients. I seriously doubt most would have it any other way; let's face it: I can't imagine ANYONE wanting a financial advisor "playing" or "screwing around" with money. Oh yeah, one other thing: since you say I'm "reading more into what I (you) wrote than I (you) meant" please enlighten me. You see I try to carefully read and analyze everything one says prior to responding. So please explain in more detail exactly what I'm somehow misreading/misinterpreting.
Relax.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 06, 2017, 08:53:57 am
Relax.
Duh......I'm plenty relaxed. Amazing that "relax" seems to be one of your absolute favorite words. I do suggest that you try to expand your vocabulary. BTW just seem to have a far more sober/responsible outlook then your cutsie remark(s) would indicate. Sorry, but the truth hurts sometimes doesn't it ??? ::) :-X
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HoginMemphis on October 06, 2017, 10:12:21 am
Duh......I'm plenty relaxed. Amazing that "relax" seems to be one of your absolute favorite words. I do suggest that you try to expand your vocabulary. BTW just seem to have a far more sober/responsible outlook then your cutsie remark(s) would indicate. Sorry, but the truth hurts sometimes doesn't it ??? ::) :-X
Why are you bothering me? All this typing for nothing. Very verbose. Please relax.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 06, 2017, 10:22:55 am
Why are you bothering me? All this typing for nothing. Very verbose. Please relax.
Ahh....verbose. Nice, you actually added a second word to your giant vocabulary collection. And who the hell is actually bothering who here ??? :o ::) :-X BTW if you don't care for my responses then I have a simple solution: just don't bother replying. Takes two sides after all and it IS a very simple answer to your angst.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: BILLYBOB on October 07, 2017, 09:57:25 pm
NM
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 01:04:09 pm
Was holding millions of shares of BTGI here at average entry of .0025 but am out with profits. Did have 20 lots from .0016 to .003...

Gonna keep a position here with BTGI.. Too much potential for the price...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: razorbrock on October 20, 2017, 02:25:27 pm
not a get-rich-quick, but GOOGL is a very solid long-term investment for 20k.  it should easily double the overall market return for the next few years.  future android licensing and ad revenue, Waymo will be licensed to auto pilot vehicles, recently invested in mobile hardware (phones, tablets, etc) & the company is investing in mobile payments and investment banking.  also, they have $100B in cash waiting to come back home as soon as U.S. corporate tax reform is finalized.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 02:48:09 pm
not a get-rich-quick, but GOOGL is a very solid long-term investment for 20k.  it should easily double the overall market return for the next few years.  future android licensing and ad revenue, Waymo will be licensed to auto pilot vehicles, recently invested in mobile hardware (phones, tablets, etc) & the company is investing in mobile payments and investment banking.  also, they have $100B in cash waiting to come back home as soon as U.S. corporate tax reform is finalized.
Wouldn't argue with you in the least. However, GOOGL is only one of dozens of "have to have" growth stocks for the future. Problem is that some seem to insist on being able to play millionaire by buying scads of penny stocks and trade in and out of them like they change clothes.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 03:06:52 pm
Now THERE'S some really quality stuff.  :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

BTW if you're REALLY interested in possibly making some money then check out a couple of biotech companies with the symbols TGTX and COOL. While they might actually cost you some real money, not fractions of cents, they also might just also give you a legitimate shot at making some as well.


Thanks for the advice expert...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 03:24:04 pm
I loaded millions of shares of BVTK back in Nov 2016 based purely on their leadership and the price per share. Still holding millions of shares that over 5000% gain.

Tom and Chuck are holding an investors conference call Oct.25...or its planned for then...

Hope the ole money launderer and Chuck can move the needle a bit...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 04:03:15 pm
Gonna keep a position here with BTGI.. Too much potential for the price...lol
Dilution could send it lower short term. You could get cut to pieces with large reverse split or not..
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 04:04:54 pm
The OTC is the last frontier where the common man can still find gold...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 04:14:25 pm
They may not eff you over too much but your progeny will suffer and not realize it...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 05:38:43 pm

Thanks for the advice expert...lol
Okay......since YOU brought it up I'll clue you in on a few of things.

First, when I give recommendations I DON'T, repeat DON'T, do so with trading or some short term time frame in mind. I try to suggest ideas of company's that are doing something that will very likely change the way people do things (innovators) or somehow improve folk's lives(disruptors). In doing so I try to look down the road a MINIMUM of six months-not six nanoseconds-preferably much longer for the stock's story to be recognized, mature, and hopefully come to fruition. In this case I remain firmly convinced in both ideas. I also don't EVER guarantee anything to anyone (obviously including myself). However, when I do initiate an investment I have a solid "end game" and reason for buying and/or selling.

In the case of biotech company TGTX they've discovered a treatments for several types of life treating cancers. The success of their regimens going through clinical trials have been so successful at treating this disease that they've been able to "fast track" their clinical results and submit them to the FDA for (hoped for) approval far more quickly than normal. The puzzling   thing is that despite the FDA's earlier assurances (January of this year) that the agency would concentrate on speeding up new drug approvals, very little has changed....they're still dragging their feet and on shorting the approval the time for most new medicines. Unfortunately this appears to be the case with TGTX's cancer treatments. Despite the apparent positive results on cancer patients, within the past couple of weeks the FDA has mysteriously decided to delay any potential approval ruling on these drugs. Thus the stock went from a run up to $12.70 close on 9/1 (from the $11.35 on 5/30 close) straight down to the $7.50 area based on the market's huge disappointment created by the uncertainty of the FDAs inaction. Yesterday the stock began stabilizing and closed +14.67% today ($1.10) to close at $8.60. So yes, THUS far the stock has not performed as hoped. However, unless I hear otherwise I will continue to hold my position. As to whether or not I will eventually be proven right----well therein lies the question. However, I repeat.....I did NOT buy the stock with the idea I was going to trade it. Had I done so it would have been possible for me to have cashed out as high as $12.70 (+11.9% from original purchase) on the September 1st close.
 
As far as COOL is concerned, well let me say that things are...ummm.. still "cool". Having recommended the idea on 5/30 with a closing price of $17.68, the stock saw a spike up to a high of of $31.68 (+79%) on August 30th. Again, not having purchased the stock for a trade I've decided to continue holding, which I still do, with today's close at $24.58; I'm currently sitting on a gain of a (mere) 39%.

So while one position is indeed currently down in value, for reasons I've outlined above, one has gained nicely. And I will remain committed to both until/unless the reasons for my original investments change. While to some that approach to investing may not sound as exciting as constantly trading in and out of penny stocks, at least I have one factor on my side that most traders don't-and this is time. You see, all I have to do is be right ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL REASON FOR THE ORIGINAL INVESTMENT. I don't necessarily have to be totally correct about the TIMING of the trade. I also don't have to be as concerned with other such factors such as costs associated with the higher costs of continual trading-and yes, even using discount brokers there are still costs-or the potential tax consequences of short term gains (assuming a taxable investment account). Rather I prefer to patiently wait for my entry points, monitor factors affecting my investment(s), and then sit back for the "cake to bake".

Oh yeah, two final thoughts.  The first is that over my 40 plus years of investing and assisting other with their own investments, I've most certainly made my share of mistakes. I would really love to say I've been half as successful as someone like Warren Buffet, but I must confess "not true". However, there is one key point of market wisdom
that both he and many other financial "geniuses" have preached: "It's time in the market, not timing the market" that greatly enhances your chance of success. The second is that one should always be very cautious about bragging when it their investment success. The reason is very simple: most folks have as many/more losers than money makers. The problem is that human nature discourages us from admitting such. And besides, one's only as smart as one's latest investment.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 05:40:02 pm
The OTC is the last frontier where the common man can still find gold...lol
Well while you're finding all that "gold" just remember that in that pit is also a LOT more mud and dirt.  ;) 8)
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 06:19:11 pm
Okay......since YOU brought it up I'll clue you in on a few of things.

First, when I give recommendations I DON'T, repeat DON'T, do so with trading or some short term time frame in mind. I try to suggest ideas of company's that are doing something that will very likely change the way people do things (innovators) or somehow improve folk's lives(disruptors). In doing so I try to look down the road a MINIMUM of six months-not six nanoseconds-preferably much longer for the stock's story to be recognized, mature, and hopefully come to fruition. In this case I remain firmly convinced in both ideas. I also don't EVER guarantee anything to anyone (obviously including myself). However, when I do initiate an investment I have a solid "end game" and reason for buying and/or selling.

In the case of biotech company TGTX they've discovered a treatments for several types of life treating cancers. The success of their regimens going through clinical trials have been so successful at treating this disease that they've been able to "fast track" their clinical results and submit them to the FDA for (hoped for) approval far more quickly than normal. The puzzling   thing is that despite the FDA's earlier assurances (January of this year) that the agency would concentrate on speeding up new drug approvals, very little has changed....they're still dragging their feet and on shorting the approval the time for most new medicines. Unfortunately this appears to be the case with TGTX's cancer treatments. Despite the apparent positive results on cancer patients, within the past couple of weeks the FDA has mysteriously decided to delay any potential approval ruling on these drugs. Thus the stock went from a run up to $12.70 close on 9/1 (from the $11.35 on 5/30 close) straight down to the $7.50 area based on the market's huge disappointment created by the uncertainty of the FDAs inaction. Yesterday the stock began stabilizing and closed +14.67% today ($1.10) to close at $8.60. So yes, THUS far the stock has not performed as hoped. However, unless I hear otherwise I will continue to hold my position. As to whether or not I will eventually be proven right----well therein lies the question. However, I repeat.....I did NOT buy the stock with the idea I was going to trade it. Had I done so it would have been possible for me to have cashed out as high as $12.70 (+11.9% from original purchase) on the September 1st close.
 
As far as COOL is concerned, well let me say that things are...ummm.. still "cool". Having recommended the idea on 5/30 with a closing price of $17.68, the stock saw a spike up to a high of of $31.68 (+79%) on August 30th. Again, not having purchased the stock for a trade I've decided to continue holding, which I still do, with today's close at $24.58; I'm currently sitting on a gain of a (mere) 39%.

So while one position is indeed currently down in value, for reasons I've outlined above, one has gained nicely. And I will remain committed to both until/unless the reasons for my original investments change. While to some that approach to investing may not sound as exciting as constantly trading in and out of penny stocks, at least I have one factor on my side that most traders don't-and this is time. You see, all I have to do is be right ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL REASON FOR THE ORIGINAL INVESTMENT. I don't necessarily have to be totally correct about the TIMING of the trade. I also don't have to be as concerned with other such factors such as costs associated with the higher costs of continual trading-and yes, even using discount brokers there are still costs-or the potential tax consequences of short term gains (assuming a taxable investment account). Rather I prefer to patiently wait for my entry points, monitor factors affecting my investment(s), and then sit back for the "cake to bake".

Oh yeah, two final thoughts.  The first is that over my 40 plus years of investing and assisting other with their own investments, I've most certainly made my share of mistakes. I would really love to say I've been half as successful as someone like Warren Buffet, but I must confess "not true". However, there is one key point of market wisdom
that both he and many other financial "geniuses" have preached: "It's time in the market, not timing the market" that greatly enhances your chance of success. The second is that one should always be very cautious about bragging when it their investment success. The reason is very simple: most folks have as many/more losers than money makers. The problem is that human nature discourages us from admitting such. And besides, one's only as smart as one's latest investment.

yeah I get the Ron Popeil  strategy...set it and for get it.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 06:21:28 pm
IMHO cool is just an otc scam on a much more expensive scale. It's exactly the type of scam to look for...nothing for sale but hope and change... Except expensive shares..lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 06:28:47 pm
Anybody know how much it cost to hang a wells fargor advisors placard out front..lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 06:38:38 pm
Well while you're finding all that "gold" just remember that in that pit is also a LOT more mud and dirt.  ;) 8)

Here's a challenge vanny...see if you can go a months worth of post without having to tell people what a financial expert you are...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: razorbrock on October 20, 2017, 06:49:28 pm
First, when I give recommendations I DON'T, repeat DON'T, do so with trading or some short term time frame in mind. I try to suggest ideas of company's that are doing something that will very likely change the way people do things (innovators) or somehow improve folk's lives(disruptors). In doing so I try to look down the road a MINIMUM of six months-not six nanoseconds-preferably much longer for the stock's story to be recognized, mature, and hopefully come to fruition. In this case I remain firmly convinced in both ideas. I also don't EVER guarantee anything to anyone (obviously including myself). However, when I do initiate an investment I have a solid "end game" and reason for buying and/or selling.


Oh yeah, two final thoughts.  The first is that over my 40 plus years of investing and assisting other with their own investments, I've most certainly made my share of mistakes. I would really love to say I've been half as successful as someone like Warren Buffet, but I must confess "not true". However, there is one key point of market wisdom
that both he and many other financial "geniuses" have preached: "It's time in the market, not timing the market" that greatly enhances your chance of success. The second is that one should always be very cautious about bragging when it their investment success. The reason is very simple: most folks have as many/more losers than money makers. The problem is that human nature discourages us from admitting such. And besides, one's only as smart as one's latest investment.

Very well stated, V8D.  It's like bricklaying on steroids.  Just keep setting the bricks, in steady increments, and when you least expect it, you'll discover an additional 20% of your work has been completed for you--then another 20%--then another.  Finally, the bricks start magically setting themselves.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 07:08:58 pm
Well while you're finding all that "gold" just remember that in that pit is also a LOT more mud and dirt.  ;) 8)

It was just an analogy of what can happen on the otc vanny...not like the real frontier where men loaded up their families and said goodby to family and friends that they would never see again...only to be exposed to outlaws and Indians...rape and pillage...feast or famine....but thanks for looking out for the plebes...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 07:12:51 pm
IMHO cool is just an otc scam on a much more expensive scale. It's exactly the type of scam to look for...nothing for sale but hope and change... Except expensive shares..lol
Yeah, that's it all right....an FDA approve treatment to help (amongst other things) the body naturally regrow badly burned  tissue, including hair where appropriate. Oh one other thing, do something else that most plastic surgeries can't even do: regrow the skin in most cases WITHOUT scarring. Yeah, the FDA and all those scores of docs around the country all falling for that scam alright...poor dolts.

Then again, you should clearly be very familiar with stock scams. But you are correct about one thing: the shares I try to recommend not only sell for more that 5 cents a share, but actually have something to sell while also making a tidy profit. But don't let those insignificant differences stand in the way, partner.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 07:17:57 pm
It was just an analogy of what can happen on the otc vanny...not like the real frontier where men loaded up their families and said goodby to family and friends that they would never see again...only to be exposed to outlaws and Indians...rape and pillage...feast or famine....but thanks for looking out for the plebes...
Well while you're using your humble and folksy analogy don't forget that when panning for all that gold....it's a proven fact that most of the miners ended up broke and/or all they really ever struck was fool's gold. Oh yeah, your rambling on about "real frontier" pioneers exposing themselves to the dangers of outlaws, Indians and such are truly appropriate when it comes to the world of penny stocks.....yep, rape and pillage are truly appropriate. Smooth move there, Jack.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 07:28:37 pm
Well while you're using your humble and folksy analogy don't forget that when panning for all that gold....it's a proven fact that most of the miners ended up broke and/or all they really ever struck was fool's gold. Oh yeah, your rambling on about "real frontier" pioneers exposing themselves to the dangers of outlaws, Indians and such are truly appropriate when it comes to the world of penny stocks.....yep, rape and pillage are truly appropriate. Smooth move there, Jack.

True...very true...It was just a mannerly way of telling you I understand the pitfalls you wagon....oh by the way my dad wasn't an expert either...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 07:32:33 pm
Here's a challenge vanny...see if you can go a months worth of post without having to tell people what a financial expert you are...lol
I've merely stated what my profession was for over forty years-nothing more, nothing less. And as a matter of full disclosure I've been quite upfront that I'm not the perfect investor, that I've made my fair share of mistakes; can't say the same about you, however. In case you're not aware/or need to be reminded this is a public discussion site; this particular area just happens to involve investments.

Tell you what though: since you apparently don't care for my comments/posts, which is certainly you're right, how about exercising that same choice and not bother reading and/or responding? We'll see if YOU can exercise the same discipline of  non posting as you've challenged me to do. And while we're at it how about posting some of your......ummm....not so      successful investment ventures. Oh yeah, that's right all we hear is your tripe concerning all the great "winners" you've had scalping a penny or two a share off those 1,000 share trades. Now THAT will really make you a Rockefeller...in four or five millennia.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 07:33:49 pm
True...very true...It was just a mannerly way of telling you I understand the pitfalls you wagon....oh by the way my dad wasn't an expert either...lol
Please don't bothering translating into English...inquiring minds really don't want to know. And as far as your dad not "being an expert" I'm honestly not sure I'd be telling that if I were you.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 07:36:16 pm
Anybody know how much it cost to hang a wells fargor advisors placard out front..lol
Nah, when they saw you walk in the door they removed theirs. Figured things couldn't get any worse though.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 07:40:10 pm
Very well stated, V8D.  It's like bricklaying on steroids.  Just keep setting the bricks, in steady increments, and when you least expect it, you'll discover an additional 20% of your work has been completed for you--then another 20%--then another.  Finally, the bricks start magically setting themselves.
Thanks for the analogy....hadn't thought of it precisely that way.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 07:45:19 pm
Nah, when they saw you walk in the door they removed theirs. Figured things couldn't get any worse though.

Wasn't me...lol... I'm jus a fat Cheetos fingered slob on a mobile device...a bonofide know nothing...meatloaf mom...now!
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 07:49:27 pm
Wasn't me...lol... I'm jus a fat Cheetos fingered slob on a mobile device...a bonofide know nothing...meatloaf mom...now!
Unfortunately and I hate to break it to you, 'fraid it was. They have you as one of their new and most valued client.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 07:56:51 pm
Unfortunately and I hate to break it to you, 'fraid it was. They have you as one of their new and most valued client.

I thank them for there market making then...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 08:04:31 pm
Help me out vinny...is it 30 35 or 40 yrs of expert advice...lol
Don't count daddies...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 08:44:02 pm
I've merely stated what my profession was for over forty years-nothing more, nothing less. And as a matter of full disclosure I've been quite upfront that I'm not the perfect investor, that I've made my fair share of mistakes; can't say the same about you, however. In case you're not aware/or need to be reminded this is a public discussion site; this particular area just happens to involve investments.

Tell you what though: since you apparently don't care for my comments/posts, which is certainly you're right, how about exercising that same choice and not bother reading and/or responding? We'll see if YOU can exercise the same discipline of  non posting as you've challenged me to do. And while we're at it how about posting some of your......ummm....not so      successful investment ventures. Oh yeah, that's right all we hear is your tripe concerning all the great "winners" you've had scalping a penny or two a share off those 1,000 share trades. Now THAT will really make you a Rockefeller...in four or five millennia.

Okay...go back and very carefully read the OP and then read my first post in this thread.
Then go read your first few post in this thread...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 08:50:32 pm
Okay...go back and very carefully read the OP and then read my first post in this thread.
Then go read your first few post in this thread...lol
Well at least my experience is measured in years. Not 30 minutes like your "expertise". Oh yeah, one thing you might not realize- as far as the OTC markets there are actually stocks like AMZN, AAPL, GOOGL. NVDA and many others...you know, companies who actually make money both for themselves AND their shareholders. I realize this comes as a real shock, however, they do exist. Might want to check it out.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 09:00:20 pm
Ginny I've only been playing Otc stocks a few years now. My worst loss was about 3k...another was 2.4k with several smaller losses over the years. I opened this account specifically for otc plays....it's all I play with this account

Those losses don't bother me as much as missing out on big runners where I was well position to make serious money in hindsight....always hindsight...

I opened this account with only 4.2k... I cashed out over 21,000$ last 30days.

Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 09:29:01 pm
Ginny I've only been playing Otc stocks a few years now. My worst loss was about 3k...another was 2.4k with several smaller losses over the years. I opened this account specifically for otc plays....it's all I play with this account

Those losses don't bother me as much as missing out on big runners where I was well position to make serious money in hindsight....always hindsight...

I opened this account with only 4.2k... I cashed out over 21,000$ last 30days.
Well, as I said if you really have a winner the longer you let 'em run the better chance you have of making  really serious money. And that's NOT in hindsight.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: HiggiePiggy on October 20, 2017, 09:34:56 pm
Well I am about to have 15k. Iím wanting to build up some long term dividend stocks. Wanting to hit every month so need to find stocks that have different quarters.  Any suggestions?  Looking at long term stocks. 
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 09:36:49 pm
Well, as I said if you really have a winner the longer you let 'em run the better chance you have of making  really serious money. And that's NOT in hindsight.

As you know one rarely picks the bottom or top entry and exit points...but never miss an opportunity to display your expertise...

Thanks for the advice expert...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 09:46:13 pm
As you know one rarely picks the bottom or top entry and exit points...but never miss an opportunity to display your expertise...

Thanks for the advice expert...
I've never claimed that I've tried to pick either the bottom or top.  That's exactly why the willingness to take a longer time perspective makes the importance of trying to do so far less important. A huge advantages of such. So your reading comprehension really needs work.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 10:26:59 pm
I've never claimed that I've tried to pick either the bottom or top.  That's exactly why the willingness to take a longer time perspective makes the importance of trying to do so far less important. A huge advantages of such. So your reading comprehension really needs work.

Another challenge for you vinny...try to make a weeks worth of post without going back and editing them...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 20, 2017, 10:45:23 pm
Another challenge for you vinny...try to make a weeks worth of post without going back and editing them...lol
You worry about your tripe, no need to worry about what I have to say. Then again, we can play this game all night long, all weekend long and even into next week. So you tell me when you'd like to stop playing and I'm sure everyone else on here will be more than happy we've both signed off. 

On second thought I'll do my part and say adios. Go argue with yourself and have fun doing it....
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 20, 2017, 11:25:10 pm
You worry about your tripe, no need to worry about what I have to say. Then again, we can play this game all night long, all weekend long and even into next week. So you tell me when you'd like to stop playing and I'm sure everyone else on here will be more than happy we've both signed off. 

On second thought I'll do my part and say adios. Go argue with yourself and have fun doing it....

Goodnight Vanny I love you...lol
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 05:12:23 am
I totally understand why people who play sub penny stocks would never admit to doing  so on an open forum like hogville....
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 05:15:49 am
Well, as I said if you really have a winner the longer you let 'em run the better chance you have of making  really serious money. And that's NOT in hindsight.

I commented about people being too smart to make money in the otc earlier... This is prime example....I give two shitz about winners or losers in the long consistent run...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 05:16:55 am
Well I am about to have 15k. Iím wanting to build up some long term dividend stocks. Wanting to hit every month so need to find stocks that have different quarters.  Any suggestions?  Looking at long term stocks.

Go ask an expert...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 05:20:45 am
I've merely stated what my profession was for over forty years-nothing more, nothing less. And as a matter of full disclosure I've been quite upfront that I'm not the perfect investor, that I've made my fair share of mistakes; can't say the same about you, however. In case you're not aware/or need to be reminded this is a public discussion site; this particular area just happens to involve investments.

Tell you what though: since you apparently don't care for my comments/posts, which is certainly you're right, how about exercising that same choice and not bother reading and/or responding? We'll see if YOU can exercise the same discipline of  non posting as you've challenged me to do. And while we're at it how about posting some of your......ummm....not so      successful investment ventures. Oh yeah, that's right all we hear is your tripe concerning all the great "winners" you've had scalping a penny or two a share off those 1,000 share trades. Now THAT will really make you a Rockefeller...in four or five millennia.

Either you are a mathematical dumbass or purposely obtuse.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 05:56:25 am
Nobody here should wanna make money fast...oh the horror

What is 5k plus 5000% again

I brought Bvtk to this board when it was trading at an intra day of ...0008-.0012
10 k would be worth over 50k now with chance to sell at almost 85k...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 05:59:48 am
Biggest difference between me and an expert advisor... I don't need your money to make a living...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 06:05:26 am
If I was a grey hair who had significant money setting in low risk positions that are earmarked for my children and grandchildren I would seriously consider cutting out the middle man now... Check on cost to transfer the account to your control...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 06:09:13 am
your financial planner is anxiously awaiting your demise...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 06:23:46 am
I know of a financial advisor who had loyal clients of over 30 yrs. She told the grandchildren that it was a rush that she needed all signatures so processes could be begin. She sold the wal mart stock at the absolute lowest intraday price of the month... She shorted it not illegal at all... The financial advisor ended up making an heirs share with the stock short and redundant charges and fees she charged on every transaction...don't trust anybody who need you to make money....
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 06:47:32 am
In fact I've contacted the Feds to look into this particular advisor...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 06:50:26 am
your financial planner is anxiously awaiting your demise...
Your death is like the back end profits of mortgage financing...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 12:46:47 pm
Nobody here should wanna make money fast...oh the horror

What is 5k plus 5000% again

I brought Bvtk to this board when it was trading at an intra day of ...0008-.0012
10 k would be worth over 50k now with chance to sell at almost 85k...

I spend 10 to 14 hrs a day on penny market related activity.
I enjoy it...it's fun to me...
I've traded hundreds of tickers over the last few years...
I've only ever mentioned 3 of them on this board...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 01:35:17 pm
If I'm gambling with play money and don't care if I lose it all then I'm going over to the OTC market. I'd put half into BVTK and the other half into BTGI and role the dice.
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I would do this tomorrow if I had the funds and wasn't worried about losses.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 01:58:44 pm
I know a lot of those good God fearing deacon types...once you peele the onion back they're just garden variety liars...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 22, 2017, 02:30:58 pm
longbore, didn't think it was possible, however, you've once again set another new low for "journalistic" standards. Let's see here. Since you challenged me Friday last to no longer post you've obviously forgotten to adhere to your own tough standards. No less than fifteen-yep, 15-posts to yourself; and at least seven-7-of those answering your own ramblings (primarily from earlier today). Boy, now that really adds some value to this whole forum. Even that wouldn't be so bad IF you were actually saying something either intelligent or coherent.

Oh, one last thing: please don't try to bring attention with your sad, pathetic attempts to impress with some ill advised Shakespearean level usage of the King's English. Come on, "obtuse" ??? I mean do you really have to rely on HIM in a feeble attempt to impress us with your vocabulary? Be aware that on some folks it comes off as genuine; for others it's merely inappropriate. For you it comes off as both shallow and lame. Then again, why should that be surprising.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 02:52:43 pm
Here's a challenge vanny...see if you can go a months worth of post without having to tell people what a financial expert you are...lol

Never challenged you to not post...lol
So offended and triggered your intelligence suffers..
You are not competent in math or reading comprehension..
you are dumb....
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 22, 2017, 02:55:20 pm
Never challenged you to not post...lol
So offended and triggered your intelligence suffers..
You are not competent in math or reading comprehension..
you are dumb....
Keep posting such and you're only reinforcing my points.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 02:55:40 pm
Just to let anyone know who may read or might of read my earlier post on this board...
I'm a dumbass and I have the test scores to back it up...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 22, 2017, 02:57:12 pm
Just to let anyone know who may read or might of read my earlier post on this board...
I'm a dumbass and I have the test scores to back it up...
Well AT LAST you're not only speaking intelligently, but truthfully as well. I just knew there was hope even for you.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 03:04:32 pm
That's rite folks I've got 30 35 or 40 years of dumbass expertise...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 03:05:27 pm
That's rite folks I've got 30 35 or 40 years of dumbass expertise...

Not counting dads of course...
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: longbore on October 22, 2017, 03:10:34 pm
Come on you idiot... Admit it you had to google obtuse. Hahahahahah
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 22, 2017, 05:37:12 pm
Come on you idiot... Admit it you had to google obtuse. Hahahahahah
Not at all. However, I'm not that one's who's been trying to impress everyone despite your third grade education.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 22, 2017, 05:38:58 pm
That's rite folks I've got 30 35 or 40 years of dumbass expertise...
So again, you're stressing your dumbass expertise. No need 'cause we've all figured that out well before now. No need to keep repeating it.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 22, 2017, 06:36:49 pm
Not counting dads of course...
Well I can understand why you'd be sensitive about the subject of dads. I know who mine is at least so there's that huge difference as well.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: majestic on October 22, 2017, 07:44:34 pm
Well I can understand why you'd be sensitive about the subject of dads. I know who mine is at least so there's that huge difference as well.
You should probably ignore this dude. I don't think anything is gained by these jabs and counters. I do like to read your posts in here. Let it go.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 22, 2017, 07:53:19 pm
You should probably ignore this dude. I don't think anything is gained by these jabs and counters. I do like to read your posts in here. Let it go.
Thanks, and of course you're right. I shouldn't try talking sense to a wall.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on October 25, 2017, 08:35:49 pm
Vantage 8 adds a lot to this board. i've made some money on COOL and am thinking about getting back in. But his posts make me think. Even if you don't agree with him, I don't see the need to clog up the board with so many posts.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on October 25, 2017, 11:21:22 pm
Vantage 8 adds a lot to this board. i've made some money on COOL and am thinking about getting back in. But his posts make me think. Even if you don't agree with him, I don't see the need to clog up the board with so many posts.
Karma, thanks and I'm glad you were able to make some change on COOL. It seems to have settled down into a trading range from the lower 20s to around $27-28. Still believes it offers some opportunity to make some additional money over time. As their medical products, particularly the ones dealing the skin repair procedures gain wide acceptance they continue to do well. BTW they're obviously content on being a "one hit wonder" when it comes to medical products. There are some other things that will hopefully gain additional approvals over the coming months.

BTW don't fall asleep on RADA. Stock seems to have established a fairly narrow range of around $3.35-$3.60. Often the longer it trades in a narrow price band means the stock might be gathering it's legs for another move higher. Obviously with the stock holding its own here there is some accumulation of the equity.

Good luck on any of your future investing ventures.
 
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Karma on October 26, 2017, 08:45:23 am
Karma, thanks and I'm glad you were able to make some change on COOL. It seems to have settled down into a trading range from the lower 20s to around $27-28. Still believes it offers some opportunity to make some additional money over time. As their medical products, particularly the ones dealing the skin repair procedures gain wide acceptance they continue to do well. BTW they're obviously content on being a "one hit wonder" when it comes to medical products. There are some other things that will hopefully gain additional approvals over the coming months.

BTW don't fall asleep on RADA. Stock seems to have established a fairly narrow range of around $3.35-$3.60. Often the longer it trades in a narrow price band means the stock might be gathering it's legs for another move higher. Obviously with the stock holding its own here there is some accumulation of the equity.

Good luck on any of your future investing ventures.
 
Thanks man. I'll take a look.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: "Boar" on November 05, 2017, 08:25:01 pm
Put it in hertz. Lost about a 3rd of it in two weeks...sold it and bought Apple. Pig Souiee. Sold that about a month ago and put in a vanguard index fund.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: tasteslikechicken on November 16, 2017, 08:52:47 am
Well I am about to have 15k. Iím wanting to build up some long term dividend stocks. Wanting to hit every month so need to find stocks that have different quarters.  Any suggestions?  Looking at long term stocks.

Realty Income (O) pays every month, has about a 4.6% yield at current $56 price. Price stays pretty consistent between $54-60.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: razorbrock on November 16, 2017, 09:50:08 am
Realty Income (O) pays every month, has about a 4.6% yield at current $56 price. Price stays pretty consistent between $54-60.

Thx for the info.  Welltower, Inc. (HCN) is another.  Pays quarterly, but yield was recently bumped to 5.15%.  It's currently $8 off it's 12mo high, trading at $68.  Both O and HCN demonstrate excellent backtest results to 2007.
Title: Re: If you had $20k to play with...
Post by: Vantage 8 dude on November 16, 2017, 10:09:54 am
Thx for the info.  Welltower, Inc. (HCN) is another.  Pays quarterly, but yield was recently bumped to 5.15%.  It's currently $8 off it's 12mo high, trading at $68.  Both O and HCN demonstrate excellent backtest results to 2007.
Many folks realize that REITs are often "hammered" when the Fed begins to move to tighten interest rates. The supposed reasons is that the yield on treasuries and other fixed income investments will begin to compete more effectively with other income alternatives such as utilities and REITS; the borrowing costs of these companies will also rise. However, what's interesting and what many investors miss is that in reality often the better quality real estate companies actually RISE during such times (certainly they tend to do so over the long run). IMO any pull back in the group such be viewed as an opportunity to SELECTIVELY initiate or add to REITs.