Long not in favor of general alcohol sales at this time.

[ricepig]

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/867858711397773312

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/867859003241574400

[ArkRazr]

Fire long!!

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Translation:

Right now I've got to get this stadium built and boxes sold.  We float ideas like this indirectly to get you and other media members talking about it to gauge interest without actually pissing anyone off by committing to an actual plan.  We will let other conference members push the agenda as well.  Once it gathers steam there will be more of a push from our fans because school X, Y, Z has it and we don't want to be left behind.  The expanded stadium will give us more options to have some areas to serve alcohol to the general public.

[sw403]

I'm glad.  All we need is someone getting drunk and go and kill a ref because of a bad call.  We don't need it at the stadium.

[Hawgar The Horrible]

That boy is just trying to piss me off. I was prepared to get a suite until he said I couldn't set up my PK charcoal grill on the balcony.

Don't think I can't keep sneaking booze in, Long. I ain't biting unless my grill comes with me.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

I'm glad.  All we need is someone getting drunk and go and kill a ref because of a bad call.  We don't need it at the stadium.

Typical thinking from those that think alcohol isn't already in the stadiums.  I've mixed plenty a drink in the stands at BWA.  Flask in the pocket or airplane bottles in the sock or honey's bra. 

It's in every NFL stadium and I don't recall any drunk fans killing an NFL ref, and although they don't quite suck as much as SEC officials they have been known to blow a call.

[RME]

I'm glad.  All we need is someone getting drunk and go and kill a ref because of a bad call.  We don't need it at the stadium.

But directly outside the stadium is satisfactory to you? Thank goodness. Damn heathen drunkards.

[phadedhawg]

I don't find the drunk people in the stadium very appealing but maybe if the drunks didn't feel they had to tank up before they got in they might show a bit of moderation...especially with how expensive alcohol is inside of stadiums. 

Some people really need it to have a good time so I can see why people are asking for it.  I'm usually sick to my stomach with nerves before a game...don't think I could keep it down if it was given to me LOL

I live in Seattle and I'm hoping they will open a cannabis  lounge for Seahawks game...that would be interesting.  Probably sell a lot more food!

[Piggfoot]

Looks like Long knows where the Yellow Hammers, RedNecks and Hotheads sit.

[Piggfoot]

It's in every NFL stadium and I don't recall any drunk fans killing an NFL ref, and although they don't quite suck as much as SEC officials they have been known to blow a call.
[/quote]
Of course. Those are civilized fans. Not Arkansas rednecks.

[McKdaddy]

Jeff hates the common man.

Be #uncommon

[LZH]

I live in Seattle and I'm hoping they will open a cannabis  lounge for Seahawks game...that would be interesting.  Probably sell a lot more food!

That is interesting....

[sasnakrafan]

I think people drink enough already by game time. If you need alcohol to have fun then you've let a vice take a stronghold of your body. Personally I prefer not, but I understand it would bring huge revenues. My suggestion would be to have a family section where none is allowed. I don't like the idea of forcing young kids to have to sit around some beligerrent drunk for 3 hours yelling obscenities after they've drink too much. Just not a fun experience young or old.

[howie76]

I think people drink enough already by game time. If you need alcohol to have fun then you've let a vice take a stronghold of your body. Personally I prefer not, but I understand it would bring huge revenues. My suggestion would be to have a family section where none is allowed. I don't like the idea of forcing young kids to have to sit around some beligerrent drunk for 3 hours yelling obscenities after they've drink too much. Just not a fun experience young or old.

i agree

[Supermark101]

Typical thinking from those that think alcohol isn't already in the stadiums.  I've mixed plenty a drink in the stands at BWA.  Flask in the pocket or airplane bottles in the sock or honey's bra. 

It's in every NFL stadium and I don't recall any drunk fans killing an NFL ref, and although they don't quite suck as much as SEC officials they have been known to blow a call.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/17/sports/nfl-week-14-bottle-throwing-browns-fans-protest-call-and-jaguars-victory.html

It wasn't murder, but it was unnecessary

[bennyl08]

It's in every NFL stadium and I don't recall any drunk fans killing an NFL ref, and although they don't quite suck as much as SEC officials they have been known to blow a call.

Of course. Those are civilized fans. Not Arkansas rednecks.

Clearly you've never been to a seahawks game.

[bennyl08]

The refs aren't the issue so much as the safety of fellow fans. Mass shootings/any murders are extremely rare at and in the immediate aftermath of football games. However, brawls are extremely common. Almost all of them involving intoxicated people. Increasing the intoxication will likely make things worse.

However, selling alcohol in the stadiums isn't a guarantee that the intoxication levels will increase. Places where drugs are legalized will usually see a spike immediately after, but then the usage will almost always be lower than when they were illegal. Similarly, people not trying to binge or sustain themselves on hard liquor when they can have some beers in the stadium could actually decrease the intoxication.

[East Clintwood]

I'd rather not have it there but if you're already selling it to the elites (which we are) then anybody in the stadium should be able to buy it as well.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

I'd rather not have it there but if you're already selling it to the elites (which we are) then anybody in the stadium should be able to buy it as well.

Heck, just make it available for everyone or not at all. But I've been attending games for 45+ years and it hasn't been an issue one way or the other for me. So carry on....

[ricepig]

Heck, just make it available for everyone or not at all. But I've been attending games for 45+ years and it hasn't been an issue one way or the other for me. So carry on....

Didn't you mean, carry in ?

[goodguytex]

I think people drink enough already by game time. If you need alcohol to have fun then you've let a vice take a stronghold of your body. Personally I prefer not, but I understand it would bring huge revenues. My suggestion would be to have a family section where none is allowed. I don't like the idea of forcing young kids to have to sit around some beligerrent drunk for 3 hours yelling obscenities after they've drink too much. Just not a fun experience young or old.

I agree too.

[ricepig]

I think people drink enough already by game time. If you need alcohol to have fun then you've let a vice take a stronghold of your body. Personally I prefer not, but I understand it would bring huge revenues. My suggestion would be to have a family section where none is allowed. I don't like the idea of forcing young kids to have to sit around some beligerrent drunk for 3 hours yelling obscenities after they've drink too much. Just not a fun experience young or old.

What about those who haven't had anything to drink, been driving up, with their kids, etc., and want a beverage at the game? Are you going to deny them the opportunity, because some drunk who came into the game that way, and was is belligerent anyway?

[goodguytex]

What about those who haven't had anything to drink, been driving up, with their kids, etc., and want a beverage at the game? Are you going to deny them the opportunity, because some drunk who came into the game that way, and was is belligerent anyway?

So have family sections where drinking isn't allowed. Solves the problem.

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Lotta front rowers in this thread.

[DeltaBoy]

Fire long!!

Sue Jeff for Class Discrimination! Only the Rich get to drink at the Hog games Poppycock. 

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Didn't you mean, carry in ?

Ha! Yes! +1

[Piggfoot]

Clearly you've never been to a seahawks game.

I forgot those depressed Zombies. They need alcohol to bring them back to life.

[Atlhogfan1]

I agree with Long.  Don't turn RRS into an NFL-like setting.  I enjoy NFL games but it is an adult atmosphere and gets more adult as the day goes on especially in some stadiums.  I view Saturdays and college football as more you can take the wife and kids.  If they want to have an area of RRS other than the club and suites for it, maybe it would be a good idea.  But not the whole stadium. 

[Hawgndaaz]

Translation:

Right now I've got to get this stadium built and boxes sold.  We float ideas like this indirectly to get you and other media members talking about it to gauge interest without actually pissing anyone off by committing to an actual plan.  We will let other conference members push the agenda as well.  Once it gathers steam there will be more of a push from our fans because school X, Y, Z has it and we don't want to be left behind.  The expanded stadium will give us more options to have some areas to serve alcohol to the general public.

Translation:

It is much easier to sell those club seats by dangling the alcohol sales over their heads. If you could purchase booze anywhere in the stadium, those seats immediately become less attractive.

[ricepig]

Translation:

It is much easier to sell those club seats by dangling the alcohol sales over their heads. If you could purchase booze anywhere in the stadium, those seats immediately become less attractive.

Not really, I've had club seats since 2003, the ability to have a beer or glass of wine didn't make those seats any more or less desirable to me.

[PonderinHog]

Didn't you mean, carry in ?

Does wearing cowboy boots with jorts make me look suspicious

[hogsanity]

what I can't get is how many people seeming can not enjoy a football game without booze. I also laugh at those who think the stands are not full of alcohol already from people smuggling it in because they can't go 3 hours without it.

Would it increase drunken behavior in the stadium, probably not much. Would it decrease it, probably not.

[ricepig]

Does wearing cowboy boots with jorts make me look suspicious

Looks good on you........

[Pigdiana Jones]

For once we both agree on something.

[goodguytex]

what I can't get is how many people seeming can not enjoy a football game without booze. I also laugh at those who think the stands are not full of alcohol already from people smuggling it in because they can't go 3 hours without it.

Would it increase drunken behavior in the stadium, probably not much. Would it decrease it, probably not.

My former boss won't or can't eat a meal without alcohol to drink. A new restaurant opened up serving one of his favorite things... Crawfish, and were supposed to be the best.

He refused to eat there until they got their license to sell booze. I gave that up years ago and I'm glad I did. I don't miss it even a little.

[hogsanity]

My former boss won't or can't eat a meal without alcohol to drink. A new restaurant opened up serving one of his favorite things... Crawfish, and were supposed to be the best.

He refused to eat there until they got their license to sell booze. I gave that up years ago and I'm glad I did. I don't miss it even a little.

I have no problem with someone wanting to enjoy a glass of wine or a beer with their meal ( although I would not let the absence of it keep me from good food ). I just find it humorous everytime the talk of alcohol sales at Razorback games comes up. I think the craziets rationalization is the " well, if they could get a beer inside, they would not binge at the tailgate before the game ". In other words, they simply can not enjoy the game unless they are buzzed or out right drunk.

[nchogg]

I think people drink enough already by game time. If you need alcohol to have fun then you've let a vice take a stronghold of your body. Personally I prefer not, but I understand it would bring huge revenues. My suggestion would be to have a family section where none is allowed. I don't like the idea of forcing young kids to have to sit around some beligerrent drunk for 3 hours yelling obscenities after they've drink too much. Just not a fun experience young or old.

I agree. I don't need to drink to enjoy myself. It clouds a persons thinking. You can't reason with a drunk. Yes I have done my share of drinking when I was younger but never at sporting events just at parties or clubs. That is just the way I am. Each to their own.

[ErieHog]

This is the boilerplate from AD's around the league.

Why would anyone expect anything different?

[widespreadsooie]

A lot of fortune tellers in here. It's really not that complicated. The only reason it's controversial is because it would be a change and not many are fond of change.

[Rocket23]

I don't drink at games because i don't want to have to keep getting up and going to PEE!  Also hate stupid drunks cussing up a storm (that has seemed to have happen more on the east side and in Little Rock

[Porked Tongue]

Dwight is right on here.

Just like the WMS stuff.  Start it with conversation and work it down from 4 to 3 to 2 to 1 games.

Problem here is Pepsi is a horrible mixer.  That's got to change.

[ricepig]

Dwight is right on here.

Just like the WMS stuff.  Start it with conversation and work it down from 4 to 3 to 2 to 1 games.

Problem here is Pepsi is a horrible mixer.  That's got to change.

I tried to introduce a proposal to replace Pepsi with Coke at the BOT meeting, but told I was out of order, imagine that??

[Porked Tongue]

Bootleg Coke will become the most smuggled item in the stadium.

[factchecker]

I tried to introduce a proposal to replace Pepsi with Coke at the BOT meeting, but told I was out of order, imagine that??

I heard they were considering a better CHOICE:

[bennyl08]

I tried to introduce a proposal to replace Pepsi with Coke at the BOT meeting, but told I was out of order, imagine that??

When you say out of order, are you speaking of robert's rules of order, or that it was not polite to bring up the pepsi issue?

[cosmodrum]

Dwight is right on here.

Just like the WMS stuff.  Start it with conversation and work it down from 4 to 3 to 2 to 1 games.

Problem here is Pepsi is a horrible mixer.  That's got to change.

Next time soda vending goes to RFP,  tell Coke to be cheaper.

[Porked Tongue]

Next time soda vending goes to RFP,  tell Coke to be cheaper.

You mean more. As in pay more for the contract.  It's not about how much they charge per bottle.

Well, you could argue an inferior product has to pay more. 

Give me a fast nickel over a slow dime when it comes to retail.   UA will swap back I believe when the moment comes.  Hearing Pepsi won't reup at the same rate.

[cosmodrum]

Well, you could argue an inferior product has to pay more. 

Give me a fast nickel over a slow dime when it comes to retail.   UA will swap back I believe when the moment comes.  Hearing Pepsi won't reup a the same rate.

I truly don't know their selection criteria, but typically, price is weighed at the heavier end of the spectrum. This being SLED (State/Local Govt and Education), they have to put everyone on a level playing field and cannot deviate from the criteria at all.

That said, I do like Mountain Dew, but Pepsi is gross. Just awful.

[cosmodrum]

You mean more. As in pay more for the contract.  It's not about how much they charge per bottle.

Well, you could argue an inferior product has to pay more. 

Give me a fast nickel over a slow dime when it comes to retail.   UA will swap back I believe when the moment comes.  Hearing Pepsi won't reup at the same rate.

No, I mean less. No customer wants to pay more for a product.

[Bacons Rebellion]

Selling alcohol legally in the stadium is an affront to the purpose and intent of the Hog Hat and hence an attack on our core Razorback fan traditions.