Has Arkansas ever beaten a Heisman winner?

[Sweet Feet]

Im trying to think back and i know they did once, but i can't remember. Did they beat earl campbell back in the 70s?

[pignparadise]

they beat Andre Ware.

[SemperHawg]

I'm gonna go ahead and count it as a win against Tebow in the Swamp even thought Marc Curles came in and over ruled a win.

[hoggusamoungus]

Im trying to think back and i know they did once, but i can't remember. Did they beat earl campbell back in the 70s?

Billy Sims played for OU in the Orange Bowl and won it the next year.

[Razor1997]

I'm gonna go ahead and count it as a win against Tebow in the Swamp even thought Marc Curles came in and over ruled a win.

Same deal with Cam Newton except it was taken away by the replay crew.

[steveaustin69]

Same deal with Cam Newton except it was taken away by the replay crew.

Auburn beat us by 22. We gave up 65 points. But yeah. The refs and replay crew.

[SemperHawg]

Auburn beat us by 22. We gave up 65 points. But yeah. The refs.

But not the Florida one...That was a hose job of immense proportions.

[steveaustin69]

But not the Florida one...That was a hose job of immense proportions.

Did I say it wasn't?

[SemperHawg]

Did I say it wasn't?

Absolutely not... just getting that in there.  Comparing the Aubbie game against Newton and what went on in the swamp in 2011 are not even in the same atmosphere.

[redleg]

Arkansas beat Andre Ware of Houston in 1988 and 1989.
They beat Billy Sims and OU in the 1978 Orange Bowl.
That's it. Just those 2.

[elksnort]

Same deal with Cam Newton except it was taken away by the replay crew.

Cam Newton ran over and around our defense. Like him or not, he was a great college QB.

[Exit Pursued by a Boar]

Cam Newton ran over and around our defense. Like him or not, he was a great college QB.

Mostly over.

[elksnort]

But not the Florida one...That was a hose job of immense proportions.

I have never been more pissed off at refereeing in all my years of watching sports. Marc Curles and crew should have never refereed every again at any level.

[elksnort]

Arkansas beat Andre Ware of Houston in 1988 and 1989.
They beat Billy Sims and OU in the 1978 Orange Bowl.
That's it. Just those 2.

Yes, but Billy Sims did not win the Heisman in 1977 season.

[AHiD]

I have never been more pissed off at refereeing in all my years of watching sports. Marc Curles and crew should have never refereed every again at any level.

Didn't Bo get on his show and deny we had been hosed?

[SooieGeneris]

Auburn beat us by 22. We gave up 65 points. But yeah. The refs and replay crew.

That game was not as bad as the UF game "officiated" by Curles and crew. Not saying we would have won, but that game was much closer than a 22 point margin if officiated in a competent way.

Aubarn was given a defensive TD on a "fumble" by Brod Green that was clearly NOT a fumble. They fumbled inside the 5 yard line, we recovered, incorrectly called not a fumble. 2 plays would have turned it into an 8 point margin. Nick Fairley, the dirtiest player in recent CFB history, threw Mallett to the ground way after the whistle. No call. Tyler Wilson played well, but had little game experience.

You make it sound like that game was a rout when it clearly was not, at least not if officiated competently. We were not the only team hosed when playing Aubarn that year. Georgia and even 'Bama got hosed to pave the way for $cam Newton and crew to make it to the NCG.

We probably wouldn't have beaten them, but UGA might have and 'Bama would have without help from the refs.

[swinemaster]

Arkansas beat USC in 1974.  Did Anthony Davis win the Heisman?  I don't remember.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Arkansas beat USC in 1974.  Did Anthony Davis win the Heisman?  I don't remember.

No. Lost out to Archie Griffin.  It in 1974, Heisman ballots were due before the end of the season. So the votes were cast before Davis & USC's last game vs Notre Dame. In that game, he scored 4 TD's, including a 102 yd kickoff return. USC trailed 24-0 at one point but came back to win 55-24. Plus, the week before Davis had 195 yds rushing vs UCLA.

[elksnort]

Didn't Bo get on his show and deny we had been hosed?

I did not listen to Bo regularly in 2009. I don't dislike Bo at all. I do think he has the best show, but frankly, if he did deny that the Hogs getting hosed, then he is simply wrong.

And let me tell you, I am one of the least complainers about referees on this board.

The Riley Cooper play, our defensive line man (from Atlanta) getting called for personal foul, and what else? Huge attempt to keep Timmy in the running.

[PORKULATOR]

We beat a Heisman finalist from Ucky. Tim Couch.... Anyone??? Anyone?
Lol, huge nfl bust after 1st overall pick.

[Inhogswetrust]

Arkansas beat USC in 1974.  Did Anthony Davis win the Heisman?  I don't remember.

That was the first year Archie Griffin won it at Ohio State.

[steveaustin69]

That game was not as bad as the UF game "officiated" by Curles and crew. Not saying we would have won, but that game was much closer than a 22 point margin if officiated in a competent way.

Aubarn was given a defensive TD on a "fumble" by Brod Green that was clearly NOT a fumble. They fumbled inside the 5 yard line, we recovered, incorrectly called not a fumble. 2 plays would have turned it into an 8 point margin. Nick Fairley, the dirtiest player in recent CFB history, threw Mallett to the ground way after the whistle. No call. Tyler Wilson played well, but had little game experience.

You make it sound like that game was a rout when it clearly was not, at least not if officiated competently. We were not the only team hosed when playing Aubarn that year. Georgia and even 'Bama got hosed to pave the way for $cam Newton and crew to make it to the NCG.

We probably wouldn't have beaten them, but UGA might have and 'Bama would have without help from the refs.

49 rushing attempts for 330 yards (6.7 YPC) and 6 TDs. We got whipped.

Watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKX6ie54yBI&t=1m36s

Green is not down.

[elksnort]

We beat a Heisman finalist from Ucky. Tim Couch.... Anyone??? Anyone?
Lol, huge nfl bust after 1st overall pick.

Did Couch win it? I don't think he did.

But my wishes came true when David Barrett picked him off to turn the tide in that game.

[GoHogzzGo]

Nm

[(notOM)Rebel123]

That was the first year Archie Griffin won it at Ohio State.

They changed when ballots were due the following year.

[BearsBisonsBoars]

Cam Newton ran over and around our defense. Like him or not, he was a great college QB.

He's a great NFL QB too, IMO

[26.2Hog]

They changed when ballots were due the following year.

Should have beaten Jim ker-Plunkett and Stanford in Little Rock, but Montgomery was tackled just short of the goal line.

We did win the halftime battle of the bands, though.

[Busta_Nutt]

Arkansas beat USC in 1974.  Did Anthony Davis win the Heisman?  I don't remember.

He didn't, however, he did win the AP Player of the Year and the Naismith Award in 2012.

[Paul]

He didn't, however, he did win the AP Player of the Year and the Naismith Award in 2012.

So bad it's good!

[Inhogswetrust]

They changed when ballots were due the following year.

Doesn't matter since Davis didn't win it at all.

[DeltaBoy]

49 rushing attempts for 330 yards (6.7 YPC) and 6 TDs. We got whipped.

Watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKX6ie54yBI&t=1m36s

Green is not down.

You Sir are a Closet Tigger2 fan.  He was down.

[wildturkey8]

You Sir are a Closet Tigger2 fan.  He was down.

Auburn to the Big 12!

[HBTHogs]

You Sir are a Closet Tigger2 fan.  He was down.

Yes, he was definitely on the ground.  And anyone who remembers watching the game (I was there), instead of just quoting stats that don't always tell the whole story, we got hosed.  Bad.

Green was down so take that TD away from them.  Also, when they fumbled on the goal line we scooped and scored, but they said it wasn't a fumble and gave them the TD.  So take that one away and give us ours and we're basically even.  The refs screwed us, I don't care what Cam's stats were.  And, oh by the way, if you want to talk stats... we out-gained them by almost 100 yards.

[steveaustin69]

You Sir are a Closet Tigger2 fan.  He was down.

Knees don't touch, butt doesn't touch, forearm doesn't touch.

You sir are just a homer.

[Pig in the Pokey]

That game was not as bad as the UF game "officiated" by Curles and crew. Not saying we would have won, but that game was much closer than a 22 point margin if officiated in a competent way.

Aubarn was given a defensive TD on a "fumble" by Brod Green that was clearly NOT a fumble. They fumbled inside the 5 yard line, we recovered, incorrectly called not a fumble. 2 plays would have turned it into an 8 point margin. Nick Fairley, the dirtiest player in recent CFB history, threw Mallett to the ground way after the whistle. No call. Tyler Wilson played well, but had little game experience.

You make it sound like that game was a rout when it clearly was not, at least not if officiated competently. We were not the only team hosed when playing Aubarn that year. Georgia and even 'Bama got hosed to pave the way for $cam Newton and crew to make it to the NCG.

We probably wouldn't have beaten them, but UGA might have and 'Bama would have without help from the refs.

refs were worth a 3 TD swing in that game all damn day.

[steveaustin69]

Yes, he was definitely on the ground.  And anyone who remembers watching the game (I was there), instead of just quoting stats that don't always tell the whole story, we got hosed.  Bad.

Green was down so take that TD away from them.  Also, when they fumbled on the goal line we scooped and scored, but they said it wasn't a fumble and gave them the TD.  So take that one away and give us ours and we're basically even.  The refs screwed us, I don't care what Cam's stats were.  And, oh by the way, if you want to talk stats... we out-gained them by almost 100 yards.

And we had 3 turnovers to zero. If we flip the plays in question guess what? We still lost the turnover battle and the margin is now 8 points.

[hawginbigd1]

And we had 3 turnovers to zero. If we flip the plays in question guess what? We still lost the turnover battle and the margin is now 8 points.

The last 2 turnovers came out of desperation once the replay jobbing, my contention is that there is not one replay angle that shows body not touching and ball out. He may have fumbled or he may not have fumbled. THE CALL THEN, IS HE DID NOT FUMBLE. The replay ref was one of our old SWC nemesis referees that I can't remember his name. That game was ours without the 2 bad replay calls.

[steveaustin69]

The last 2 turnovers came out of desperation once the replay jobbing, my contention is that there is not one replay angle that shows body not touching and ball out. He may have fumbled or he may not have fumbled. THE CALL THEN, IS HE DID NOT FUMBLE. The replay ref was one of our old SWC nemesis referees that I can't remember his name. That game was ours without the 2 bad replay calls.

Do you not know how replay works? The call then is what was called on the field. 

[Ragnar Hogbrok]

Do you not know how replay works? The call then is what was called on the field. 

Can you find the Alma Sonic?

[steveaustin69]

Can you find the Alma Sonic?

Only eat at Cracker Barrel.

[31to6]

they beat Andre Ware.

/thread

[texas tush hog]

they beat Andre Ware.

Yep and that's it.

[HognitiveDissonance]

I have never been more pissed off at refereeing in all my years of watching sports. Marc Curles and crew should have never refereed every again at any level.

I was actually at this game.
It was eerie the feelings that changed during that game.
Going in, the thought was having no idea what was going to happen....could very well be a blowout...but just enjoying a visit to the Swamp. So the trip would be a 'success' for that reason alone.

However, as the game transpired, and Florida kept trying to fumble it away, and Arkansas bringing the wood, the feeling slowly morphed into 'hey, we're definitely not going to be embarrassed today'.

Then it became 'dang...we actually have a chance to win this game'

Then it became 'dang...we actually are going to win this game. I can't believe it'.

Then right after the long TD pass to Childs to go up by a TD, the whole stadium knew Fla was in serious trouble, as it was midway through the 4th quarter, their offense had sputtered all day, and there seemed to be little chance they were going to march down the field and tie the game.

Then came all the flags flying all over the place. Three separate controversial calls on that one drive. As someone said, 'the refs just weren't going to be denied'

I wasn't that upset at the time. It just seemed odd. Later I realized how the game had been taken over by the officials, but not at the moment. As it's happening live, it wasn't occurring to me right away due to not seeing all the replays and stuff how bad it was.

I do remember the Florida radio folks after the game even commenting on the 'cheesy calls'. Everyone knew it was bad, even their own people.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Did Couch win it? I don't think he did.

But my wishes came true when David Barrett picked him off to turn the tide in that game.

Loudest day of my life... If DWRRS ever gets that loud they will have to replace glass.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Doesn't matter since Davis didn't win it at all.

He may have very well won it over Griffin had the last two regular season games been considered. The ballots were due in NY the Tuesday following the next to last game of the year.
The mail traveled pretty slow in 1974. 

[redeye]

And we had 3 turnovers to zero. If we flip the plays in question guess what? We still lost the turnover battle and the margin is now 8 points.

I think Green probably was down, but Newton definitely fumbled before reaching the endzone.  Fairley clotheslined Mallett right in front of the ref, causing Mallett to leave with an injury, but no call.  Wilson played great, but he also threw 2 interceptions that Mallett probably wouldn't have thrown.  I still think we'd have won that game if not for the refs.

[Bacons Rebellion]

Should have beaten Jim ker-Plunkett and Stanford in Little Rock, but Montgomery was tackled just short of the goal line.

We did win the halftime battle of the bands, though.

Lots of close calls. We lost to John David Crow (A&M) 7-6, Davey O'Brien (TCU) 21-14), Plunkett, Earl Campbell, 13-9 (missed face mask call),  We beat SMU in 1946, but Doak Walker had taken the year off for the Army.