Internal problems

[bigpigpimpin]

A completely effortless performance tonight points to something bigger than this football game. Something is going on inside the program. I wish I could be a fly on the wall in the coaches meetings tomorrow.

[Ex-Trumpet]

After a beating like this there needs to be a few less coaches in said meeting.

[hog47]

I wouldn't normally agree but I think something is wrong.

[Kevin]

something is wrong on the defensive side of the ball

[spiritof92]

Sometimes things start bad and just roll down hill on Saturday night.  There's just nothing that works and everything goes wrong.  Could be simple as that. 

[longpig]

Auburn could've beat anyone (almost anyone) tonight the way they were playing.  We just happened to be that anyone.

[Little Lady Back]

Auburn could've beat anyone (almost anyone) tonight the way they were playing.  We just happened to be that anyone.

Auburn looked really good but we also helped them look really good.

[Uberanubis]

A completely effortless performance tonight points to something bigger than this football game. Something is going on inside the program. I wish I could be a fly on the wall in the coaches meetings tomorrow.

coach said in his interview on the radio with chuck after the game that basically the buck stops with him and darn rolls down hill. cant keep doing the things we are doing week in and week out and expect to win. not sure what that will translate to, but its at least acknowledgement of the situation

[spiritof92]

Their offense has been steadily improving.  Their defense has looked good all season.  Hogs just happened to be their coming out party.

[Danny J]

Auburn could've beat anyone (almost anyone) tonight the way they were playing.  We just happened to be that anyone.

I don't think they could have done that to any other team. We are the worst rush D in the league and after tonight by a wide margin. We just gave up 544 yards rushing to a team that has a new play caller just 2 games ago...544...

[Ex-Trumpet]

Their offense has been steadily improving.  Their defense has looked good all season.  Hogs just happened to be their coming out party.

Have you looked at the average yards per play that our D has been yielding?

Their party was expected by many.

[Little Lady Back]

coach said in his interview on the radio with chuck after the game that basically the buck stops with him and darn rolls down hill. cant keep doing the things we are doing week in and week out and expect to win. not sure what that will translate to, but its at least acknowledgement of the situation

Good to hear.

[spiritof92]

Have you looked at the average yards per play that our D has been yielding?

Have you watched any Auburn games before tonight?

[Pig In The City]

I agree. The players have zero enthusiasm and fire. This isn't the first time that effort and energy was low. I agree something is internally going wrong. The team played like CBB's two Yorkies tonight. Horrible showing by staff and players alike.

[WashUhog6]

Sometimes things start bad and just roll down hill on Saturday night.  There's just nothing that works and everything goes wrong.  Could be simple as that.

Things were a little worse than rolling down hill tonight. Bad games do happen, it's just the nature of the game. Losing 56-3 is another beast entirely and reeks of more serious problems than just a bad night. I'm not sure if it's internal problems, though that idea does fit the circumstances--but I don't think that sort of problem would reveal itself following a big win. Either way, it's not like Auburn is the first very talented team we've played this year so I have no idea how we managed to put together such a historically bad showing.

[Ex-Trumpet]

Have you watched any Auburn games before tonight?

Edited my post during your reply...

[buldozer]

There have been problems for some time, no tackling, players that don't line up after plays when they know they are playing up tempo offenses, no spy on the QB when they are the leading rushers.... are examples of fundamentals that remain and bite the team game after game after game.

The question is when will the head coach step up and take control and rectify these glaring problems?

[Potosihog]

The internal problem is we continue to develop schemes which require players to do what we know they aren't capable of doing.   When you require someone to do what even they know they aren't capable of, you destroy confidence and effort.   Tonight was evident of all those things.

[Hogeration]

Any other team would have been prepared.  Auburn didn't do anything they haven't done since Gus took over.  We were not prepared. 

[Pig In The City]

coach said in his interview on the radio with chuck after the game that basically the buck stops with him and darn rolls down hill. cant keep doing the things we are doing week in and week out and expect to win. not sure what that will translate to, but its at least acknowledgement of the situation

I hare bad management practices about as much as I hate excuses.

[justasportsfan]

Sometimes things start bad and just roll down hill on Saturday night.  There's just nothing that works and everything goes wrong.  Could be simple as that.

Please.  There is something wrong here, and that's a fact to people that have watched this team all season.

[spiritof92]

Please.  There is something wrong here, and that's a fact to people that have watched this team all season.

Yeah, the Hogs match up horribly with Auburn and caught them at the worst possible time.  You can put away your tinfoil hat.

[Qui Gon Jinn]

I agree. The players have zero enthusiasm and fire. This isn't the first time that effort and energy was low. I agree something is internally going wrong. The team played like CBB's two Yorkies tonight. Horrible showing by staff and players alike.

This.  AA didn't look too excited about playing at any point tonight.  I get that he's been beat up, but he didn't look like his head was in it from the beginning.  Defense didn't look like they were in it all night. 

The wife and I have been discussing and can't decide.  Is it just the scheme?  Is it that the players aren't capable or is it that they aren't being coached the right things?  What's going on with the O Line?  I'm sure its a mix, but where do you start in fixing it? 

[hamARchy in the USA]

This team has had problems with giving a consistent effort all year. Particularly the defense.  Last week was the first game the whole team showed up to play and played hard from start to finish.  Tonight was just the opposite.  The team showed up flat and stayed flat.  It's looking like MA has taken over the football team.

[justasportsfan]

Yeah, the Hogs match up horribly with Auburn and caught them at the worst possible time.  You can put away your tinfoil hat.

Keep on thinking that.  Parts Plus bowl, again

[Sir Oinksalot]

....SO says we are gassed.  When we play with high energy we can cover up our weaknesses.....when we don't fly around or gang tackle we are cannon fodder ...

[DoubleReedHawgCaller]

I think RS knows PR is his replacement and really doesn't give two chits.

[daprospecta]

I don't mind losing if we are playing our hearts out but.......

[wachhog]

I think RS knows PR is his replacement and really doesn't give two chits.

And we said this year's o-line problems were because Pittman knew he was gone. If either is the case, it is STILL on the head coach.

[Bosco]

I don't think there are internal problems.  The problem is the HC come out of the BIG10 and is over his head.  He is running the '60's football like they do up there and getting his ass handed to him.

[Pigsknuckles]

It's Corso's fault. We were doomed the moment he picked us.

[cypress rock]

We need SEC caliber assistant coaches

[Dionysos25]

Bama and A&M are better teams, and we at least put up a fight.. They rolled over big time tonight. Embarrassing.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

A completely effortless performance tonight points to something bigger than this football game. Something is going on inside the program. I wish I could be a fly on the wall in the coaches meetings tomorrow.

Same bunch that was there vs Ole Miss was at Auburn tonight.

[Pancetta]

After seeing CBB post game PC I would say if there wasn't there will be some internal coaching strife now.  CBB wasn't hostile but he did seem pretty serious that defensive changes are coming.  Sounds like either CRS will either be on boadg with changes or he'll get left at the dock. 

[justasportsfan]

After seeing CBB post game PC I would say if there wasn't there will be some internal coaching strife now.  CBB wasn't hostile but he did seem pretty serious that defensive changes are coming.  Sounds like either CRS will either be on boadg with changes or he'll get left at the dock.

Day late and dollar short. 

[Jimbob111]

A completely effortless performance tonight points to something bigger than this football game. Something is going on inside the program. I wish I could be a fly on the wall in the coaches meetings tomorrow.

That's what I saw and what I've witnessed all season. It can't completely be a talent issue, a star issue, etc, there is something we're not seeing. Either that or Bert and his assistants are the worst coaches to ever coach. Keep in mind, Robb Smith (under Schiano, a defensive guy) had Rutger's defense playing WAAAAY above their star ranking.

[Jimbob111]

Auburn could've beat anyone (almost anyone) tonight the way they were playing.  We just happened to be that anyone.

No, they could not have beaten "anyone". A competent defense that at least makes them honor a passing game would have crushed them. The worst QB Auburn has had that I can remember CRUSHED a team ranked ahead of them in the Top 25.

[dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya]

coach said in his interview on the radio with chuck after the game that basically the buck stops with him and darn rolls down hill. cant keep doing the things we are doing week in and week out and expect to win. not sure what that will translate to, but its at least acknowledgement of the situation

Absolutely the RIGHT thing to say on the radio, something BB does right that other coaches we have had didn't get.  Absolutely the WRONG thing to say tomorrow to his staff.

[alohawg]

Nothing will change, just talk, it's what CBB is good at.

[GoHogs1091]

I don't think there are internal problems.  The problem is the HC come out of the BIG10 and is over his head.  He is running the '60's football like they do up there and getting his ass handed to him.

He is finding out that for the most part the Defensive Lines in the SEC are not like the DL of Purdue, the DL of Northwestern, the DL of Minnesota, the DL of Indiana, and the DL of Illinois.

You are not going to just line-up and consistently bowl over most of the SEC Defensive Lines (except the gashing that Auburn did to our DL tonight, but that is another matter).

[NuttinItUp]

I think Auburn might be able to give Alabama a run for their money if they play like they did tonight.

[arktravlr]

Nothing will change, just talk, it's what CBB is good at.

Don't forget guacamole. He makes great guacamole.

[coolhog]

Smith demoted Rhoads moves up.

[buldozer]

Nothing will change, just talk, it's what CBB is good at.

I'm starting to wonder if this isn't the case. If he doesn't fire someone tomorrow I think you are right. If not after this, then when?

[arlhog]

something is wrong on the defensive side of the ball

We scored 3 freaking points in an entire game.   It's not just the defense.

[WorfHog]

Bielema can brag and talk and it doesn';t matter becasue Jeff Long has locked him into a golden handcuff situation. CBB's all talk and his boss can't/won't do anything about it. Good thing they're some of the highest payed Arkansans'  in the state. Totally earning those humongous checks.

[BigoBoys]

Bielema can brag and talk and it doesn';t matter becasue Jeff Long has locked him into a golden handcuff situation. CBB's all talk and his boss can't/won't do anything about it. Good thing they're some of the highest payed Arkansans'  in the state. Totally earning those humongous checks.

What is your plan? 

[WashUhog6]

He is finding out that for the most part the Defensive Lines in the SEC are not like the DL of Purdue, the DL of Northwestern, the DL of Minnesota, the DL of Indiana, and the DL of Illinois.

You are not going to just line-up and consistently bowl over most of the SEC Defensive Lines (except the gashing that Auburn did to our DL tonight, but that is another matter).

For one thing, I don't understand how he hasn't completely figured that out yet; but even worse is the fact that he still insists on forcing an already ineffective philosophy on a team ill-suited to run it while being extremely effective at spreading it out and moving the ball through the air. We have trouble with pass protection and physicality up front, but have a big time talent at QB and strength at the skill positions. Both our weaknesses and our strengths are perfectly suited for an offense that spreads it out primarily in the shotgun, incorporating quicker throws to protect AA from so many hits and clear out the box a bit. We move the ball extremely on those occasions, while the more prototypical Bielema offensive formations just end up regularly setting us up with 3rd and long.

I'm all for running a pro style offense that likes to dominate opponents on the ground, but most of all we need to do what best fits our roster. It's not about "ground and pound" versus spread, it's about emphasizing your strengths while minimizing your weaknesses.

Of course that's only part of the problem, because our defense might as well not even exist. It's well beyond fixing at this point, while the offense still has the talent to be better optimized.

[Arkansas Fan]

I think Auburn might be able to give Alabama a run for their money if they play like they did tonight.

Alabama will NOT give up 544 rushing yards, ever. Plus, their O-line is much better than ours. I'm taking Alabama.