Dr. Stephen Heim starter on 78 offensive line...

[hawgon]

just blasted Bielema on the Mornin Rush this morning.  He was very nice but he said that we are now the "Rice" of the SEC.  He said that Bielema is terrible and that the excuses he offers are insulting.  He said that the offensive line is both untalented and completely lacking in technique.  He said that he watched Froholdt completely whiff on a goal line block during the Bama game on a guy 18 inches off of his nose.  He said that "...if the kid had had a heart attack and dropped on the spot, he probably could have at least tripped the defensive lineman and done a better job."

He further said that the entire Orange Bowl team spent the weekend laughing at how bad we are because that is all they can do.  He said that there is literally NOTHING that we do well.  He was of the opinion that it is t and WON'T get better. 

No one on this board can argue about the man's credentials or intelligence.  This has got to end.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Unfortunately he's totally correct. Sad to see how far we've fallen. While we may not be able to recruit with the elite of the SEC, we should at least be able to teach the proper techniques and get these kids to play smart and with intensity. This staff is getting to do neither. When you add it all up it comes up big time negative.

[Kevin]

totally correct.

[hawgon]

He also blasted Bert on his demeanor and how he calls the players by their nicknames and the like.  He said that he did not want Coach Holtz to know his name.

Another Oline starter on that team told me a story the other day.  He said that When Broyles was there, in practice after a play Jerry Eckwood would just drop the ball and a trainer or equipment guy would come and pick it up and they would throw in a new ball.  The first practice he did that and Holtz saw it.  He said Holtz and Eckwood went completely out of sight towards the south with Holtz screaming at Eckwood and kicking the ball and making Eckwood run after it trying to pick it up.

We need some of that.

[go hogues]

Good to know there are still Razorbacks of influence who CARE about the direction of our program. Many times it feels like there are not.

[Hoggish1]

Unfortunately he's totally correct. Sad to see how far we've fallen. While we may not be able to recruit with the elite of the SEC, we should at least be able to teach the proper techniques and get these kids to play smart and with intensity. This staff is getting to do neither. When you add it all up it comes up big time negative.

Assuming we can't recruit with the elite then we damn sure should be teaching the proper technique for our self preservation.  I thought teaching proper technique was football 101at this level but apparently not for this O-line coach.

[RazorPiggie]

Cool. CBB will be gone at the end of the year so it really don't matter.

[PonderinHog]

It's only year five.  The ole' technique is hard to teach and hard to grasp, but we're close!

[Hoggish1]

He also blasted Bert on his demeanor and how he calls the players by their nicknames and the like. 

Does the AD know about that?  If not, he should.  That would be something that a good AD like Alvarez would nip in the bud.  Long probably thinks it's cool if he even knows about it.

[hawgon]

This guy is fricking our guys up so bad that the new coach is going to have to go "The Junction Boys" on this team to weed them out.  They have been coddled them to the point that they are soft as baby poop.  When a real coach comes in and tries to demand perfection he is going to face a rebellion.

[jkstock04]

Of course he is right. All there is left to do is laugh about it...or get drunk while watching the Hogs to make it through it if that's your thing.

Think about it. We are terrible at blocking. We are terrible at tackling. We are terrible at running the ball. We are terrible at passing the ball. We are slow. We have poor coaching. Our special teams aren't good (although placekicker is showing signs of life). That about covers everything. We are a bad football team.

We will find out just how bad here in the next few weeks when we play some other bad teams. Ole Miss coming up without their qb makes it an interesting match up.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Cool. CBB will be gone at the end of the year so it really don't matter.

And just for the sake of argument he isn't gone at the of the season? Then what

[ur]

He also blasted Bert on his demeanor and how he calls the players by their nicknames and the like.  He said that he did not want Coach Holtz to know his name.

Another Oline starter on that team told me a story the other day.  He said that When Broyles was there, in practice after a play Jerry Eckwood would just drop the ball and a trainer or equipment guy would come and pick it up and they would throw in a new ball.  The first practice he did that and Holtz saw it.  He said Holtz and Eckwood went completely out of sight towards the south with Holtz screaming at Eckwood and kicking the ball and making Eckwood run after it trying to pick it up.

We need some of that.

Yesterday, Troy Aikman said that the nice Jimmy Johnson you see on fox is not the coach Jimmy Johnson. He said Jimmy was a person that you wouldn't want to be around. that he would go off on everything. He said most great coaches are that way.

[Redhogs]

And just for the sake of argument he isn't gone at the of the season? Then what

That's a good question.... very sad. Problem is, there is LONG TERM damage being done to the brand every day this idiot stays...

[hogsanity]

Maybe Dr Heim would like to pony up the buyout AND come up with solutions to get better players.

Everyone seems to know the easy part, that is firing the coach, that is easy. The hard part is finding the right guy to take the job AND figuring out how to get better talent ( since the man talked about in the OP talked about how untalented the OL is ). Although many of you will argue with him on that because some here think the Hogs are as talented as Bama.

[Seebs]

Go to hitthatline.com - that segment should be posted soon as it was gold.  I listened to that segment driving into work and sweet fancy Moses was it scathing.  I agreed with everything but cringed at the amount of unfiltered truth being said. It was refreshing and at the same time nauseating on how bad we really are from a man in the know.

Fire all of them, with prejudice, and begin anew.

[ricepig]

And just for the sake of argument he isn't gone at the of the season? Then what

We'll have year 6, duh.....

[Wildhog]

Go to hitthatline.com - that segment should be posted soon as it was gold.  I listened to that segment driving into work and sweet fancy Moses was it scathing.  I agreed with everything but cringed at the amount of unfiltered truth being said. It was refreshing and at the same time nauseating on how bad we really are from a man in the know.

Fire all of them, with prejudice, and begin anew.

It's incomprehensible how bad we are.  I'm not even mad.  Just bewildered.

[DeltaBoy]

Eckwood was never as dominate as he was before the Knee Injury.

[RME]

http://hitthatline.com/78-orange-bowl-team-laughing-at-current-hogs/

[oldman1015]

Eckwood was never as dominate as he was before the Knee Injury.

Pretty sure that was the point of this thread.

[BigE_23]

Maybe Dr Heim would like to pony up the buyout AND come up with solutions to get better players.

Everyone seems to know the easy part, that is firing the coach, that is easy. The hard part is finding the right guy to take the job AND figuring out how to get better talent ( since the man talked about in the OP talked about how untalented the OL is ). Although many of you will argue with him on that because some here think the Hogs are as talented as Bama.

I haven't seen or heard anyone make this assertion, not even in the slightest.

I think we can all agree that the talent we have on the roster right now is not 32 points worse than Bama, or Auburn.

This team is poorly coached and managed. There's enough talent to win 7-8 games...which according to YOU is all we should ever expect, right?

And BTW, the buyout is not an issue, so you can get rid of that crutch.

[hogsanity]

I haven't seen or heard anyone make this assertion, not even in the slightest.

I think we can all agree that the talent we have on the roster right now is not 32 points worse than Bama, or Auburn.

This team is poorly coached and managed. There's enough talent to win 7-8 games...which according to YOU is all we should ever expect, right?

And BTW, the buyout is not an issue, so you can get rid of that crutch.

I know the buyout is not an issue, and it never was, even if it had really been 15mil.

I said Sat night it is obvious BB is not a SEC coach, at least not in the sense of being able to challenge for or someday win even just the scw, BUT how anyone can look at the players and not see the vast talent difference between Ar and the upper level SEC teams is just mind boggling. 

[onebadrubi]

Maybe Dr Heim would like to pony up the buyout AND come up with solutions to get better players.

Everyone seems to know the easy part, that is firing the coach, that is easy. The hard part is finding the right guy to take the job AND figuring out how to get better talent ( since the man talked about in the OP talked about how untalented the OL is ). Although many of you will argue with him on that because some here think the Hogs are as talented as Bama.

You think the Doc would put an oline out there against Bama that performed really well, only the go back to one that hasn't been working the next game?  Then give completely stupid quotes as to why?    Because that's what this oline responsible staff did

[BigE_23]

I know the buyout is not an issue, and it never was, even if it had really been 15mil.

I said Sat night it is obvious BB is not a SEC coach, at least not in the sense of being able to challenge for or someday win even just the scw, BUT how anyone can look at the players and not see the vast talent difference between Ar and the upper level SEC teams is just mind boggling. 

No one would or is denying the disparity between a 5* and a 3*...the glaring difference is the coaching each respective player is receiving.

For instance, Agim is all-world talented, and he's getting worse instead of better. Coaching at this point is the main and most pressing issue. You get the right coach and better players will follow.

That said, for the most part we've recruited at or near the top 25 for the past 5 seasons.
According to 247 Sports:
2013 - 23rd
2014 - 29th
2015 - 22nd
2016 - 23rd
2017 - 29th

[hogsanity]

No one would or is denying the disparity between a 5* and a 3*...the glaring difference is the coaching each respective player is receiving.

For instance, Agim is all-world talented, and he's getting worse instead of better. Coaching at this point is the main and most pressing issue. You get the right coach and better players will follow.

That said, for the most part we've recruited at or near the top 25 for the past 5 seasons.
According to 247 Sports:
2013 - 23rd
2014 - 29th
2015 - 22nd
2016 - 23rd
2017 - 29th

And those classes were still only 8th-10th in the SEC. 8-10 SEC teams CONSISTENTLY recruit better players that the Hogs do year after year after year.

[hogsanity]

You think the Doc would put an oline out there against Bama that performed really well, only the go back to one that hasn't been working the next game?  Then give completely stupid quotes as to why?    Because that's what this oline responsible staff did

Don't know since he is a doctor not a d1 football coach. Since he said our OL is not very talented, would it matter?

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

I absolutely hate the way this team plays.

Haven't enjoyed the defense since the Jerricho Nelson days. You get some bad leadership and allow it to grow and this is what you get.

[onebadrubi]

No one would or is denying the disparity between a 5* and a 3*...the glaring difference is the coaching each respective player is receiving.

For instance, Agim is all-world talented, and he's getting worse instead of better. Coaching at this point is the main and most pressing issue. You get the right coach and better players will follow.

That said, for the most part we've recruited at or near the top 25 for the past 5 seasons.
According to 247 Sports:
2013 - 23rd
2014 - 29th
2015 - 22nd
2016 - 23rd
2017 - 29th

The current dline coach does not have his groups attemtion or respect currently.

[Cambridge Hog]

http://hitthatline.com/78-orange-bowl-team-laughing-at-current-hogs/

wow. pretty much what people here have been saying for a while. it's obvious to everyone and an embarrasment to the University and the State. absolutely no way this can continue beyond this year without dire consequences.

never would I have thought things could turn out this bad. but we are not alone. Tennessee probably is worse off. at least they have a richer talent base and tradition.

[Grizzlyfan]

just blasted Bielema on the Mornin Rush this morning.  He was very nice but he said that we are now the "Rice" of the SEC.  He said that Bielema is terrible and that the excuses he offers are insulting.  He said that the offensive line is both untalented and completely lacking in technique.  He said that he watched Froholdt completely whiff on a goal line block during the Bama game on a guy 18 inches off of his nose.  He said that "...if the kid had had a heart attack and dropped on the spot, he probably could have at least tripped the defensive lineman and done a better job."

He further said that the entire Orange Bowl team spent the weekend laughing at how bad we are because that is all they can do.  He said that there is literally NOTHING that we do well.  He was of the opinion that it is t and WON'T get better. 

No one on this board can argue about the man's credentials or intelligence.  This has got to end.

Was this call about the time that you posted?  Little after 8:00 am?

[hawgon]

Was this call about the time that you posted?  Little after 8:00 am?

Yes, that sounds about right.

[#1Fan]

We can't even execute the fake injury properly.  Who's in charge of coaching that?

[Grizzlyfan]

http://hitthatline.com/bud-light-morning-rush-podcast-monday/

Dr. Heim's call is the first thing you hear on the podcast.

[SquidBilly]

And those classes were still only 8th-10th in the SEC. 8-10 SEC teams CONSISTENTLY recruit better players that the Hogs do year after year after year.

So why aren't we consistently 8th-10th in the conference standings when it comes to win/loss record?  Not that we'd like that either, but right now we're 14th.

[hogsanity]

So why aren't we consistently 8th-10th in the conference standings when it comes to win/loss record?  Not that we'd like that either, but right now we're 14th.

Because 6 or 7 of the ones consistently out recruiting the Hogs are all in the division, so when you lose to 4 or 5 of them a year it takes you down past 8th in the sec.

[hawgon]

I just listened to it again and caught something I didn't catch the first time.  You can tell that he is pretty much seething and just keeping it nice because he is on the radio.

[mizzouman]

He also blasted Bert on his demeanor and how he calls the players by their nicknames and the like.  He said that he did not want Coach Holtz to know his name.

Another Oline starter on that team told me a story the other day.  He said that When Broyles was there, in practice after a play Jerry Eckwood would just drop the ball and a trainer or equipment guy would come and pick it up and they would throw in a new ball.  The first practice he did that and Holtz saw it.  He said Holtz and Eckwood went completely out of sight towards the south with Holtz screaming at Eckwood and kicking the ball and making Eckwood run after it trying to pick it up.

We need some of that.

Calling players by their nickname is mostly a Midwestern/northern coach thing.

[SemperFi]

We'll have year 6, duh.....

Another year of piss poor coaching and ridicule....not just no, but hell no!

[Hog Fan...DOH!]

And those classes were still only 8th-10th in the SEC. 8-10 SEC teams CONSISTENTLY recruit better players that the Hogs do year after year after year.

Those classes should have been good enough to display some semblance of competitiveness.

[Cambridge Hog]

I just listened to it again and caught something I didn't catch the first time.  You can tell that he is pretty much seething and just keeping it nice because he is on the radio.

yeah, i got that too. he was trying to be nice at first but the more he spoke, the tougher it was for him to keep the gloves on.

but the fact that former players were laughing at the current teams incompetence is damning.

[EastexHawg]

It's incomprehensible how bad we are.  I'm not even mad.  Just bewildered.

The most bewildering part is that we have been a pretty terrible football program for going on six years now but before the season started we had half our fans predicting 9 or 10 wins.  It's one of the most stunning cases of denial I've ever seen.  We were 12-28 in conference games, along with two losses to Rutgers, a loss to Toledo, a loss to Texas Tech, and what should have been a loss to Louisiana Tech along the way and yet our fans still thought we were a really good football program, probably second only to Alabama in our division if not the conference.  "We'll be 5-0 headed into the Bama game!"

The mantra was "you guys who hold Bielema's first year against him have an agenda!"  Well now, does his 5th year not count, either?

We're terrible.  Awful.  Humiliatingly bad.  We're now reduced to scanning the schedule, looking to see if there is another team among our last five that is bad enough for us to beat them.

[Grizzlyfan]

Calling players by their nickname is mostly a Midwestern/northern coach thing.

It is also sophomoric.  As Dr. Heim put it.

[hogsanity]

Those classes should have been good enough to display some semblance of competitiveness.

I do not disagree with that, but the fact remains that 8 or so teams in the league get better players every year, so why is anyone shocked that at least that many teams have better teams every year?

[hawgon]

It is also sophomoric.  As Dr. Heim put it.

Some of the stories I've heard about how big a dick that Holtz was are legendary.  He made Petrino look like a piker.

[hogsanity]

It is also sophomoric.  As Dr. Heim put it.

check your PM

[Mr. Barnett (rbarnet424)]

No one would or is denying the disparity between a 5* and a 3*...the glaring difference is the coaching each respective player is receiving.

For instance, Agim is all-world talented, and he's getting worse instead of better. Coaching at this point is the main and most pressing issue. You get the right coach and better players will follow.

That said, for the most part we've recruited at or near the top 25 for the past 5 seasons.
According to 247 Sports:
2013 - 23rd
2014 - 29th
2015 - 22nd
2016 - 23rd
2017 - 29th

going beyond Agim you can say half of the Patriots Starting DLine was at Arkansas and they could barely win with these guys. Sure we had 1 year there where we had a good Defense with Spaight, Philon and Flowers and we still managed to win 7 games

Its rare to see  players do better in the NFL than in College

[Youngsta71701]

I do not disagree with that, but the fact remains that 8 or so teams in the league get better players every year, so why is anyone shocked that at least that many teams have better teams every year?

So, I guess we'll never be good again then? I'm glad Broyles, Holtz, Hatfield, Nutt, and Petrino didn't pay attention to these excuses.

[SemperFi]

You can definitely tell that he is fuming, but is practicing such restraint that I am in awe of the man. I wish that I could do the same.

[hogsanity]

So, I guess we'll never be good again then? I'm glad Broyles, Holtz, Hatfield, Nutt, and Petrino didn't pay attention to these excuses.

I have never said that, matter of fact I have said just the opposite. The program will continue to be, on average, a 7-8 win a year program. They will have years that are better, Holtz, Hatfield, HDN, BP all had those, but they all also had worse years. I do not think BB will ever have a 9 or 10 win year because I think this is his last season.