Ball St. says no to Humanitarian Bowl Bid

[RazorBassin]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jn-ballst120408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Sad for the kids, they should have went and played.  It would have been good for the program win or lose.

[BEvERage]

no balls state

[fu-man-soo]

jason whitlock owes an explanation for this

[idiotghos]

I wouldn't give boise a home game either.

[kgr]

So with a perfect season, they are going to stay home?

[OnYourToes]

I'm not up on my Bowl selection process but, can multiple bowls invite one team?
If one team turns one down, can another offer?

If so maybe Ball St is waiting for a bigger one to offer.

[dsewell70]

no they aren't staying home.. they'll go to one of the MAC tie-in bowls. They just didn't want to go play Boise State in a bowl game on Boise State's home field.

[dsewell70]

if they would have gone to the Humanitarian Bowl, it would have been as a at-large bid instead of going to one of the conference's guaranteed bowls

[311Hog]

yeah so they will end up playing some crap 6-6 team in the motor city bowl.  That no one on this earth save people actually involved with Ball State will give two shiets about if they win, and if they happen to lose to some .500 team it will prove everything everyone ever said about small conference schools with cream puff schedules going undefeated and demanding inclusion into the BCS.

[hogsndawgs]

So with a perfect season, they are going to stay home?

No, they'll be playing Notre Dame or NC State in the Motor City Bowl.

[kimjongsqUeAl]

If I was 12-0 I would think that the Humanitarian Bowl is an insult.  I wouldn't go either.  Screw Boise, ID.

[GWFan]

NM

[hogsndawgs]

If I was 12-0 I would think that the Humanitarian Bowl is an insult.  I wouldn't go either.  Screw Boise, ID.

An insult? It's a much higher bowl than any of the alternatives. They won't get a BCS bowl bc Utah already got the non BCS conference at large bid and they aren't in the top 12 anyway. Also, the more big time bowls like the Cotton, Cap One, ect...already have committments to other conferences. The Humanitarian Bowl was far and away the biggest bowl that could have offered, plus they would have had an opportunity to play against a top ten team that is undefeated. How is that an insult? If they want to play in the Rose Bowl they should join the Big 10

[Idahog]

Boise St. vs. TCU is a better game anyways.

I think its funny though to hear people proclaim that Ball St. should be a BCS buster but then Ball St. won't play against mid-major program.  It wasn't the bowl, it wasn't the money or the bid, it was the team they were to face in the bowl and their 64-2 record on the Smurf Turf. 

[kimjongsqUeAl]

An insult? It's a much higher bowl than any of the alternatives. They won't get a BCS bowl bc Utah already got the non BCS conference at large bid and they aren't in the top 12 anyway. Also, the more big time bowls like the Cotton, Cap One, ect...already have committments to other conferences. The Humanitarian Bowl was far and away the biggest bowl that could have offered, plus they would have had an opportunity to play against a top ten team that is undefeated. How is that an insult? If they want to play in the Rose Bowl they should join the Big 10

You got a point.  It just seems like a waste of time to me.  Whats the pay out for that bowl?

[hogsndawgs]

You got a point.  It just seems like a waste of time to me.  Whats the pay out for that bowl?

Dunno, probably not much though. Either way, it would have been nice to see who's better, Boise or Ball St. Of course in a playoff...

[idiotghos]

I think its funny though to hear people proclaim that Ball St. should be a BCS buster but then Ball St. won't play against mid-major program.

Where has anyone said they should be in the BCS?

[Idahog]

Where has anyone said they should be in the BCS?

There was an article posted here a while back about the conspiracy of ESPN and the BCS, in it a Ball St alum said they shouldn't be left out based on SoS or their conference and that ESPN was keeping them down.

[donewithdale]

Why would they want to play the Boise Frauds in Boise in December?  I don't blame them.  They've earned better than that.  Let Boise figure out a way to play Ball St in a bowl outside of Boise. 

[RazorBassin]

I guess I can kind of see WHY they wouldn't accept it, but I think it still would have been the best they could hope for.  Had they went up there and beat Boise St., then they could have beat their chest a little bit.

[Hog in MO]

No, they'll be playing Notre Dame or NC State in the Motor City Bowl.

What team in their right mind would want to go to Boise, ID in December and play Boise State on their home field in two feet of snow?  I think it'd be much better to whip Notre Dame's butt in Detroit.  I'd love to see that

[hogsndawgs]

Why would they want to play the Boise Frauds in Boise in December?  I don't blame them.  They've earned better than that.  Let Boise figure out a way to play Ball St in a bowl outside of Boise. 

They should want to play Boise at Boise because it is the only possible way Ball St. could prove themselves. What good does it do them to play in the Motor City Bowl?

[Idahog]

Why would they want to play the Boise Frauds in Boise in December?  I don't blame them.  They've earned better than that.  Let Boise figure out a way to play Ball St in a bowl outside of Boise. 

Boise St. could care less, it was the bowl organizers and ESPN that wanted the matchup to increase TV ratings for that bowl.

Boise St. players would much rather go to Sunny California and play TCU, just my opinion.

Here is another article on it btw:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/sports/story/592728.html?pageNum=3&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

[donewithdale]

I guess I can kind of see WHY they wouldn't accept it, but I think it still would have been the best they could hope for.  Had they went up there and beat Boise St., then they could have beat their chest a little bit.

Can't Boise figure out a way to play Ball St in the GMAC or Motor City or whatever bowl the MAC is tied to now?  No, they want to stay at home and play on their ridiculous blue field. 

[mckinneyhog5]

and how many people gave Boise State a chance to beat Oklahoma?  It's a raw deal.  Not saying they should get a BCS bowl but something better then playing in Boise.

[RazorBassin]

Why would they want to play the Boise Frauds in Boise in December?  I don't blame them.  They've earned better than that.  Let Boise figure out a way to play Ball St in a bowl outside of Boise. 

That would be a good game I think.  They need a neutral field game between the two.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

I'm not up on my Bowl selection process but, can multiple bowls invite one team?
If one team turns one down, can another offer?

If so maybe Ball St is waiting for a bigger one to offer.

Maybe they are waiting for the Cotton Bowl to come calling so they can replace Ole Miss playing Texas Tech? Something they feel they are more deserving of?   Ha, ha, ha, ha!

[HOG RED UMP]

Why would they want to play the Boise Frauds in Boise in December?  I don't blame them.  They've earned better than that.  Let Boise figure out a way to play Ball St in a bowl outside of Boise. 

Exactly.   You don't see Boise St clamoring to play Ball St.......it would have been very easy to clear out a spot for the Broncs in one of the 2 MAC bowls
if they had the cojones to venture east.............

[Idahog]

Exactly.   You don't see Boise St clamoring to play Ball St.......it would have been very easy to clear out a spot for the Broncs in one of the 2 MAC bowls
if they had the cojones to venture east.............

They are more then likely going to play a tougher and higher ranked TCU team in San Diego.  Not sure what cajones have to do with it

[idochog]

Pretty soon the Jerry Bowl gonna be hosting like 4 or 5 bowls

[donewithdale]

and how many people gave Boise State a chance to beat Oklahoma?  It's a raw deal.  Not saying they should get a BCS bowl but something better then playing in Boise.

I gave them little chance.  And if they played OU this season, I would give them no chance.  And if they played OU the next 10 seasons, I would give very little chance to win more than 1 game.  Upsets happen.  They UPSET OU.  Doesn't legitimize their program as some kind of national power.  The way people hype them you would think they are some rising power like Florida St or Miami of the early 80's.

[PorkSoda]

They were scared of boise st.  They have an undefeated record to maintain.  wouldn't want to ruin that by playing a better team.

[GWFan]

Aren't they holding out hopes for a better bowl?

[311Hog]

now they get to play a notre dame or worse yet some other 6-6 team in a game no one will watch, it what could be the most nationally meaningless undefeated season in history.

[idiotghos]

There was an article posted here a while back about the conspiracy of ESPN and the BCS, in it a Ball St alum said they shouldn't be left out based on SoS or their conference and that ESPN was keeping them down.

You're referring to Jason Whitlock's article The story ESPN doesn't want you to know, in which Whitlock states

I'm not someone who believes Ball State belongs in a BCS bowl game. Any team — not just a mid-major — needs a top-25 victory on its resume before you even begin the BCS argument.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8853534/The-story-ESPN-doesn%27t-want-you-to-know

So I still have yet to see any evidence of people clamoring for them to get a BCS game.

[donewithdale]

You're referring to Jason Whitlock's article The story ESPN doesn't want you to know, in which Whitlock states
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8853534/The-story-ESPN-doesn%27t-want-you-to-know

So I still have yet to see any evidence of people clamoring for them to get a BCS game.

That is one of the best columns I've read.  Its time ESPN is challenged.  I've had that same opinion of ESPN for several years now and its getting worse.

Whitlock's comments on the Heisman is so accurate.  ESPN has decided it must be a qb on a top ranked team.  They've destroyed any credibility the Heisman once had. 

[code red]

put up or shut up!!!!!!  This would have been a great chance for Ball State. 

[hogsndawgs]

Aren't they holding out hopes for a better bowl?

It is the best available bowl. The best bowl that their conference has ties to is the Motor City Bowl.

[3kgthog]

You mean they didn't want to go snowmobiling during their Christmas break? I can't imagine why.

Boise, ID doesn't need a bowl. Period. How they got one in the first place is beyond me. The only positive is the fact that they'll eventually have so many bowls that every team in D1 will go to a bowl regardless of record. That means a bowl game in Little Rock or Fayetteville. Yay!

[Idahog]

You're referring to Jason Whitlock's article The story ESPN doesn't want you to know, in which Whitlock states
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8853534/The-story-ESPN-doesn%27t-want-you-to-know

So I still have yet to see any evidence of people clamoring for them to get a BCS game.

If its that big of a deal to you here are some quick google results

Top 10 reasons for Ball State in BCS:

http://www.theworldofisaac.com/2008/11/top-10-reasons-why-ball-state-deserves.html

How Ball State will make a BCS game:

http://media.www.bsudailynews.com/media/storage/paper849/news/2008/11/08/Sports/Football.Espn.Analyst.Says.Ball.State.Is.Bcs.Bowl.Sleeper.Team-3533873.shtml

So anyhow, I hope that makes you feel better to read someone else saying this or how Ball State could end up in a game.  Silly really.  I care not one way or the other, them refusing is no sweat off my back.

[kingofdequeen]

If I was 12-0 I would think that the Humanitarian Bowl is an insult.  I wouldn't go either.  Screw Boise, ID.

wow...i agree with you.  *needs a drink*

F boise, ID in Dec.  Ball st. deserves better than an away game to a sh!tstein town like Boise in December.

[socalhogcaller]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jn-ballst120408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Sad for the kids, they should have went and played.  It would have been good for the program win or lose.

No, it would not be good for the program to play another mid-major on the road?  It would be much better for the team and the fans to go to another bowl and play a 6-6 or 7-5 big boy that is having an off year.  Who would you rather us play if we were in a bowl...Notre Dame, or Boise?

[kcabrozaR]

Now if Texas would refuse theirs, I could get interested in that.

[hogfanshan]

As a reward for your 12-0 season, you can come and play us in and undefeated match-up to see who is the best team. By the way, it will be in the middle of winter on our home field and your fans will need to travel 1900 miles to see the game.

Oh yeah, rather than a standard green field, our field is BLUE! When we where our blue uniforms, it seems as if we "pop out of thin air" to catch touchdown passes...generally giving us a rather substantial advantage against our opponents.

Hmmm. Wonder why Ball State turned it down?

[Wild Bill Hog]

They are more then likely going to play a tougher and higher ranked TCU team in San Diego.  Not sure what cajones have to do with it

You freeze them off playing in Boise in December.

[DeltaBoy]

Like I said earlier playing BS on there home field is stupid.

[PowderedToastMan]

I don't blame Ball St for turning it down.  Why would you want to play Boise on their home turf?  They need to meet in a neutral site bowl.  I had heard that the Independence Bowl was a possibility for the two schools to meet up.

[HawgnCorona]

If I was 12-0 I would think that the Humanitarian Bowl is an insult.  I wouldn't go either.  Screw Boise, ID.

Thats my thought as well...thats just a croc o' chit. They should also consider getting rid of the blue turf, it just ain't happening.

[RazorBassin]

BS losing to Buffalo 28-17 about to go into the 4th Q.  BS ball.

[songofthesword]

and why isn't anyone trying to get turner gill?