New Academic Record

[3kgthog]

I'm proud of the female athletes and the baseball team. They are holding it up for the rest of them.

[lasthog]

I'm sitting here with a masters degree and I'm arguing online with the kind of guy who works at walmart but reads Faulkner in the break room to remind everybody that he's smarter than they are.

Who's the real idiot.

I mean...all of us, honestly. But still.

Perhaps when boasting of one's academic prowess while simultaneously disrespecting another's intellect, one would be careful to properly punctuate "master's degree."

Oh, sweet irony!

[Jimbob111]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand athletics. The sports are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics, most of the sports will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Bret's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his coaching persona- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. Us intellectuals understand this stuff; we have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these tweets, to realize that they're not just sports- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Jeff and Bret truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the wisdom in Bret's existential tweeting of his cooking, which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Jeff Long's genius wit unfolds itself on their smart phonescreens. What fools.. how I pity them.

How many morons do you think you managed to make google "Turgenev"?  Well done.

[HoggyCat]

So complaining about kids graduating is what's up?

You're missing the point.....  all sec schools, EVEN VANDERBILT, are up. LSU is up 21 percentage points over the same time frame.  It's due to new rules, not Jeffi. But he will take credit for it because he needs it to improve his image.

[Kevin]

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/

propaganda right on time.

[Kevin]

with all the support they have up there, a player would have to try and not graduate

[ricepig]

I'm proud of the female athletes and the baseball team. They are holding it up for the rest of them.

Hmm...The baseball team's GSR went down 9 points to 65, maybe you should be proud of the golf and tennis teams, 100%.

[jkstock04]

I don't think anyone here is discrediting the success rate of our student athletes. At least, I hope no one is.

I think people are perplexed that Jeff has gone out of his way so many times to trump up academics and "wins/losses" secondary. You see him doing that and the perception is that we're out front or challenging for the front of the SEC academic race. So much so that you still see people on here asking "if we end up with five wins, you think we could still get a bowl invite, like MSU did last year with their academics?" - a fair question given the brand image being presented by the AD.

When you see that we are not only bringing up the rear in football but also academics (in what is widely regarded as a joke of an academic conference anyway) I think that's what causes the negative reactions toward Jeff Long that you are seeing in this thread.

I was one that was surprised to see those numbers given the hype. While true of the improvement we still lag way behind in comparison. Just more proof that it's nothing but spin and deflection away from an obvious negative situation. I've thought this for years with all the academic stuff they send you in the mail, and looks more obvious all the time.

It's funny how all this evolved....before 2012 I never really saw anything like this. It's a complete culture change that Jeff Long and the administration have taken us on. The results are painful. There are some no doubt that enjoy where we are right now, but I'm not one of them.

[hassettsportsman]

Jeff, I'm more interested in incarceration rates post-Hog gloryville. 

[Razorbackers]

That statement insinuates other programs we are up against are "win at all costs" programs - which obviously they aren't, they whip us on the field and in the classroom.

That's what rubs folks the wrong way - trying to act like we are so superior to these other programs.

Interesting. I mean, that's not at all what he says. But it's interesting that you think that. It's almost like you create your own narrative.

[DeltaBoy]

I want both wins in the Classroom and on the Field.

[Kevin]

I want both wins in the Classroom and on the Field.

you cannot set the bar that high

[hoghearted]

Good god folks.

"Yes, winning is important," he said. "Now contrast that if you're a win-at-all-cost program which we're not and I've said many, many times we're not, then you don't worry about the academics, you don't worry about the conduct, you just win.

"And you know what? When I arrived here 10 years ago, that's not what the leaders wanted at the time and certainly that's certainly not what we've delivered.

"Yes, we want to win. Yes, it's a priority. Yes, it eats us up from the inside that we don't win more."

The insinuation is that it was previously a 'win at all costs' program, which is preposterous, and an insult to those who came before. If we were never ' a win at all cost' program, why bring it up now? Simply a deflection from the fact that Bret is failing. It's a ridiculous argument.

[HogFaninMemphis]

probably wouldn't tweet it to said friends

why not? Good friends (fellow SEC schools) I'm sure are celebrating our higher GSR. It's better for everyone.
Let us just for once be happy with improvement. We're like last in education; therefore, you shouldn't exactly expect our student-athletes to have a 100% GSR.

[Razorbackers]

The insinuation is that it was previously a 'win at all costs' program, which is preposterous, and an insult to those who came before. If we were never ' a win at all cost' program, why bring it up now? Simply a deflection from the fact that Bret is failing. It's a ridiculous argument.

that's not what the leaders wanted at the time and certainly that's certainly not what we've delivered.

He literally...with his mouth...said that a win at all cost is NOT what the leaders wanted at the time.

I absolutely cannot with you people anymore. I have lost my ability to can.

[hawgon]

It's like giving Long credit for all the money in the program.  Look across the SEC and EVERYONE is making a lot more money than they were ten years ago.  Why?  Because of TV money.  Same with academics.  Why are everyone's graduation rates up to record levels?  Because it is in the rules now and it matters.

I'll bet if someone wanted to take the time to do the research that he would find that at least ten schools in the SEC have their highest graduation rates ever this year.

[WoooPigBrewie]

that's not what the leaders wanted at the time and certainly that's certainly not what we've delivered.

He literally...with his mouth...said that a win at all cost is NOT what the leaders wanted at the time.

I absolutely cannot with you people anymore. I have lost my ability to can.

Sir, just bow at the mention of the Almighty Frank and everything will be better.

All glory unto him.

[Cotton]

Interesting. I mean, that's not at all what he says. But it's interesting that you think that. It's almost like you create your own narrative.

that's not what the leaders wanted at the time and certainly that's certainly not what we've delivered.

He literally...with his mouth...said that a win at all cost is NOT what the leaders wanted at the time.

I absolutely cannot with you people anymore. I have lost my ability to can.

We disagreed for the first half of this argument, which is fine, opinions are opinions.

But I couldn't agree with you more on this win at all costs stuff. People with pitchforks see red and lose all rational thought.

[Hogwild]

When the GSR was as low as 60 under the previous administration (in 2005).... it's something to brag about.

Still in last place, 12 years later in last place on and off the field. Way to go Jeff Long.

[hawgon]

Only three Power 5 schools with a lower GSR.

[greasy_corner]

Only three Power 5 schools with a lower GSR.

Add this to your "reasons it's hard to recruit to Fayetteville" arguments.  Self-inflicted wound by the department.

[Hogwild]

Only three Power 5 schools with a lower GSR.

There are only seven Power 5 school football teams ranked lower than us in CBSports Poll.

[hawgon]

There are only seven Power 5 school football teams ranked lower than us in CBSports Poll.

Jeff Long and Bert bringing us things that we've never had before.

[Razorbackers]

Add this to your "reasons it's hard to recruit to Fayetteville" arguments.  Self-inflicted wound by the department.

It's hard to recruit to fayetteville because the fans are dumb af.

Got it.

[longpig]

If you made a 17 on the ACT and improved to a 19 and the rest of your friends made 24 plus would you be happy at UACCM in Morrilton?

If Philander Smith wouldn't take me.

[younghog]

Actually knowing the fails of the Arkansas HS education system.. This is HUGE.. Granted I know all of the Athletes are not from Arkansas.

However I'll take this.. As it should bold well for students and parents who strive for more.

GO HOGS

[Razorbackers]

Jeff Long and Bert bringing us things that we've never had before.

Literally

LITERALLY

is a fact. This is a school record. They LITERALLY have done something that hasn't been done before.

I know you didn't MEAN to be accurate, but you were.

[Drop the Mike]

Your entire sentence is grammatically incorrect but you are ripping on me and these kids for graduating.

Do you bottle and sell your own irony? Or is it just for your personal use?

I'm sitting here with a masters degree and I'm arguing online with the kind of guy who works at walmart but reads Faulkner in the break room to remind everybody that he's smarter than they are.

Who's the real idiot.

I mean...all of us, honestly. But still.

Dear Mr. Grammar Police,

Here is a link that I believe will be helpful to you when describing your "masters degree" you clam to have!

https://www.dailywritingtips.com/masters-degree-or-masters-degree/

[hawgon]

Literally

LITERALLY

is a fact. This is a school record. They LITERALLY have done something that hasn't been done before.

I know you didn't MEAN to be accurate, but you were.

Now, go and do the research as to how many other teams in the SEC reached school records for their GSRs this year.

[azhog10]

Wasn't football at like 60%. Actually lower than the University average? #Uncommon

[Razorbackers]

Now, go and do the research as to how many other teams in the SEC reached school records for their GSRs this year.

Why is that relevant to Jeff Long, the AD of the Arkansas Razorback athletic department, congratulating all the coaches and students for setting an Arkansas Razorback's record?

It isn't not relevant. You are creating false outrage just because you're mad we're losing football games. You don't have to create negativity, it's already on the field. Jesus.

[Razorbackers]

Dear Mr. Grammar Police,

Here is a link that I believe will be helpful to you when describing your "masters degree" you clam to have!

https://www.dailywritingtips.com/masters-degree-or-masters-degree/

You didn't indent your paragraph, literally unreadable.

[hawgon]

Why is that relevant to Jeff Long, the AD of the Arkansas Razorback athletic department, congratulating all the coaches and students for setting an Arkansas Razorback's record?

It isn't not relevant. You are creating false outrage just because you're mad we're losing football games. You don't have to create negativity, it's already on the field. Jesus.

It is one hundred percent relevant.

[Razorbackers]

It is one hundred percent relevant.

For you, and your narrative.

Not for the tweet that started this crapfest, and the congratulations to our athletes and coaches.

[hawgon]

For you, and your narrative.

Not for the tweet that started this crapfest, and the congratulations to our athletes and coaches.

Why do you congratulate people for making a D minus instead of an F?  More evidence that this program would rather celebrate mediocrity than actually accomplish something.

[Drop the Mike]

You didn't indent your paragraph, literally unreadable.

You might want to get your money back on that masters degree!

[Grizzlyfan]

Calm down snowflake, I'll send you a participation trophy in the mail too.

"Hey guys congrats on improving and still being last in our peer group! Hooray!!!"

We need you in the politics forum to take Hogcards place.

[Grizzlyfan]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what it would take to get an 80 to, say, an 85?  One more graduate?  5 more graduates?  20 C's turned into B's?  What is the relative comparison between Arkansas and those with an 85 score?

[Boss Hog in the Arkansas]

We achieved a new academic record of athletes that graduated.


Unfortunately we are in last place in the SEC. #neveryield

Good thing we aren't a win at all cost school (whatever that means)

Wait wait wait....So the ONE THING we've been bombarded about over the past 5 years, the ONE THING we're supposed to be good at, the ONE THING that bielema hung his hat on to keep him out of trouble while losing was false? In some places your tongue gets cut off for lying and being deceptive. In the state of Arkansas you get 4 million dollars 

[Razorbackers]

You might want to get your money back on that masters degree!

*master's

[Wildhog]

Mister's decree.

[Razorbackers]

Why do you congratulate people for making a D minus instead of an F?  More evidence that this program would rather celebrate mediocrity than actually accomplish something.

If your kid was making straight F's and busted his butt to make D's, would you not tell him good job for improving?

Also, 80% GSR isn't an F or a D. But whatever. You're just being obtuse for funsies.

[Razorbackers]

Mister's decree.

Mistah Mistah

[ATU HOG]

Why is that relevant to Jeff Long, the AD of the Arkansas Razorback athletic department, congratulating all the coaches and students for setting an Arkansas Razorback's record?

It isn't not relevant. You are creating false outrage just because you're mad we're losing football games. You don't have to create negativity, it's already on the field. Jesus.

Completely disagree. 

It's relative to Jeff Long because he's the one that has created this story.  This story of excelling in academics, having integrity in everything we do, and being content with the results on the field as long as we have the first two.  Listen we should 1000% do our best to excel in the academic side of things.  We should and do give all of our students oppourtunities to succeed in the classroom.  That's an expectation of our student athletes that they do well in the classroom.  Almost every university has that expectation.  Obviously there are exceptions to that, but 99% of colleges expect that of their student athletes.  But we've been given this story that this is something we have our hat to hang on, more than many other schools, when clearly every school is doing the same or better than we are.

Then to the integrity card.  I was on campus when Petrino got fired.  It happens, whether I agree/disagree it's what happened.  Next day, shirts came out to the student body that said "Integrity goes a LONG way"  From that point on, in my personal opinion Jeff has done many great things to better his name, but when it comes to the Arkansas Razorbacks, I felt like Jeff came first then then the Razorbacks came.  CFB Playoff Chair, Raises, Mr.  Integrity, etc.  We became known as a brand that was about Jeff Long rather than the Arkansas Razorbacks.  And in my opinion there hasn't been a lot of things to change that.  We still constantly hear about how much integrity we have.  We constantly hear that our kids do things the right way along with our program.  Just seems like a salesman telling you about how great we are in some things (which those are expectations... shouldn't brag about doing the right thing) to deflect from how bad we are in other things.

[hawgon]

If your kid was making straight F's and busted his butt to make D's, would you not tell him good job for improving?

Also, 80% GSR isn't an F or a D. But whatever. You're just being obtuse for funsies.

My child would never get to the point that she was making straight Fs.  It would not be allowed even if I had to make her study around the clock.

[greasy_corner]

It's hard to recruit to fayetteville because the fans are dumb af.

Got it.

example a.

[Razorbackers]

Completely disagree. 

It's relative to Jeff Long because he's the one that has created this story.  This story of excelling in academics, having integrity in everything we do, and being content with the results on the field as long as we have the first two. 

I stopped reading there because that is BS and a narrative that you and many others have created and ran with because you are insane.

[Razorbackers]

My child would never get to the point that she was making straight Fs.  It would not be allowed even if I had to make her study around the clock.

*whoosh*

[hawgon]

*whoosh*

No, I would not congratulate her if she moved from Fs to Ds.  That is still unacceptably low and nothing to be celebrated.  And even if I did say "nice job" to her, I wouldn't post
flyers around the neighborhood.

[Razorbackers]

No, I would not congratulate her if she moved from Fs to Ds.  That is still unacceptably low and nothing to be celebrated.  And even if I did say "nice job" to her, I wouldn't post
flyers around the neighborhood.

lol ok.