Elite 2019 prospect reveals plans to visit Hogs

[Richard Davenport]

http://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2018/jan/18/elite-2019-prospect-reveals-plans-visit-hogs/

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

These coaches are selling building a championship program and these elite player's ability to build a legacy. I hope we can have a crow potluck in about 3 years with all of the "Cautiously Pessimistic" and the "You can't recruit to Arkansas because it's impossibro" guys rushing to eat it by the handful because you know it will taste soooo goood...!

[Supermark101]

These coaches are selling building a championship program and these elite player's ability to build a legacy. I hope we can have a crow potluck in about 3 years with all of the "Cautiously Pessimistic" and the "You can't recruit to Arkansas because it's impossibro" guys rushing to eat it by the handful because you know it will taste soooo goood...!

Adrian Peterson had an official visit  here..... it means nothing until they sign.

[HogX]

Adrian Peterson had an official visit  here..... it means nothing until they sign.

And you can't sign them (in most cases) unless you get them on campus.  Why the negativity in a thread about a 4*-5* prospect visiting us?  What is there to be upset about?

[Tsarcasm]

And you can't sign them (in most cases) unless you get them on campus.  Why the negativity in a thread about a 4*-5* prospect visiting us?  What is there to be upset about?

Some people are just looking for a way to Nag...Pay him not attention. 

[Hawg Red]

Adrian Peterson had an official visit  here..... it means nothing until they sign.

An official visit would indicate legitimate interest, no? I'd say it absolutely means something but not close to everything. It's definitely a positive for the outlook on landing the player. Need to have a seat at the table and you get that when you score an official visit.

[Pig in the Pokey]

These coaches are selling building a championship program and these elite player's ability to build a legacy. I hope we can have a crow potluck in about 3 years with all of the "Cautiously Pessimistic" and the "You can't recruit to Arkansas because it's impossibro" guys rushing to eat it by the handful because you know it will taste soooo goood...!

of course we will. and all these trembling cowards will act like it was perfectly reasonable for them to act that way. It's pathetic.

[MP24]

This is big, wants to bring other recriuts with him.

https://247sports.com/player/chris-steele-90375

[Bubba's Bruisers]

An official visit would indicate legitimate interest, no? I'd say it absolutely means something but not close to everything. It's definitely a positive for the outlook on landing the player. Need to have a seat at the table and you get that when you score an official visit.

Correct.  Historically, however, we only sign a very small fraction of the blue chippers that visit.  With every new coach, we claim that he's bringing in more blue chippers for OV's than the coach before.  That claim will continue for CM.  To me, however, CM is the first coach in a while who seems to actually have the pull (and energy) required to measureably increase the number of blue chippers who actually sign on the dotted line each year. 

We'll see, I guess.  2019 will tell us a lot about CM's recruiting prowess.  I'm hopeful he'll show a marked improvement.

[greenie]

Adrian Peterson had an official visit  here..... it means nothing until they sign.

It does mean something.
How many elite (4* or 5*) players from out of state have we ever signed without an official visit? 
His visit means that he at least has interest enough to burn one of his official visits with us.  This is step 1.

[cardinalandwhite]

Correct.  Historically, however, we only sign a very small fraction of the blue chippers that visit.  With every new coach, we claim that he's bringing in more blue chippers for OV's than the coach before.  That claim will continue for CM.  To me, however, CM is the first coach in a while who seems to actually have the pull (and energy) required to measureably increase the number of blue chippers who actually sign on the dotted line each year. 

We'll see, I guess.  2019 will tell us a lot about CM's recruiting prowess.  I'm hopeful he'll show a marked improvement.

If we're recruiting like we should, there will be a lot of blue-chip visitors who don't sign with us. We just need to get more here to begin with

[Supermark101]

It does mean something.
How many elite (4* or 5*) players from out of state have we ever signed without an official visit? 
His visit means that he at least has interest enough to burn one of his official visits with us.  This is step 1.

And how many have we signed that visted, not many.

A visit is no reason to warm up the oven and defrost the crow. That is all I'm saying.

[FBREW000]

And how many have we signed that visted, not many.

A visit is no reason to warm up the oven and defrost the crow. That is all I'm saying.

no, but you might want it butchered ... just in case!

[Hogindasticks]

And how many have we signed that visted, not many.

A visit is no reason to warm up the oven and defrost the crow. That is all I'm saying.

We gotta change this mold.....this is the reason it's happening, because we give up before it takes place.   To be a winner, gotta think like one......its going to take positive to make it work for everyone.

[liljo]

And how many have we signed that visted, not many.

A visit is no reason to warm up the oven and defrost the crow. That is all I'm saying.

Yeah, but how many have we signed that DIDN'T visit?

I would think every fan would be excited about any blue chip prospect that takes on OV up to Fayetteville. Sure, we're going to miss out on a bunch of them, but we'll get a few, too.

[HawgwildinMI]

Anyone who thinks getting a recruit of this caliber to come and visit from the state of California is just going to be another letdown shouldn't be following recruiting. You never get them all unless you offer dodge vehicles. Whether he commits or not the exposure is a major plus for CCM and staff. The kid wants to bring teamates. His interest is obviously higher than you think and the kid has offers from nearly every major school in college football and he's choosing to come visit the Hogs. No.2 CB for 2019 from what I gather thinks highly enough of our staff to bring teammates along is an awesome sign.

[greenie]

And how many have we signed that visted, not many.

A visit is no reason to warm up the oven and defrost the crow. That is all I'm saying.

Way more than those that didn't visit. 
Good Lord, nobody is poppin' the corks, but getting an official visit from a high-4* from California is a positive.  But I  get it...he's a 2019 kid, and that's a long way off. 

Anyone who thinks getting a recruit of this caliber to come and visit from the state of California is just going to be another letdown shouldn't be following recruiting. You never get them all unless you offer dodge vehicles. Whether he commits or not the exposure is a major plus for CCM and staff. The kid wants to bring teamates. His interest is obviously higher than you think and the kid has offers from nearly every major school in college football and he's choosing to come visit the Hogs. No.2 CB for 2019 from what I gather thinks highly enough of our staff to bring teammates along is an awesome sign.

^^^<golf clap>^^^

[theFlyingHog]

I know I'm going to get screamed at for this but I really don't mean it in a bad way, it just surprises me a little, that a highly rated DB is clocked at a 4.5 40. I never put too much stock in the 40 anyway

[buldozer]

This type of kid is what we need. He looks elite for sure. I'm hoping a bunch of kids with talent like this ends up in the 2019 class! WPS!!

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Adrian Peterson had an official visit  here..... it means nothing until they sign.

I agree, and I hope you are able to say that you were wrong in about 3 years...

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

And how many have we signed that visted, not many.

A visit is no reason to warm up the oven and defrost the crow. That is all I'm saying.

Never warmed up anything... In case you misunderstood I was wishful thinking, nay, believing. How can we expect recruits to believe in Arkansas if we don't? The first part about changing the culture comes with ourselves. You have the right to be negative, and I have the right to be positive. You also have the right to remain silent. When you give up that right and play contrarian you're not doing anything more than pissing on my fire. Why? Are you afraid of hope?

[Supermark101]

no, but you might want it butchered ... just in case!

Ha, fair enough

I agree, and I hope you are able to say that you were wrong in about 3 years...

History has made me cautiously optimistic and that is ok. I'll be the first in line, and i hope I'm wrong, but I'm not going to get my hopes too high.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Ha, fair enough

History has made me cautiously optimistic and that is ok. I'll be the first in line, and i hope I'm wrong, but I'm not going to get my hopes too high.

Obviously just because a kid visit means nothing. However, as others have pointed out the higher rated recruits are NOT going to even contemplate pledging without at least visiting the campus and staff first. I do know that this staff appears to have a TON of energy on the recruiting trail and don't seem to mind butting heads with some of the bigger dogs in the hunt for these kids. And THAT in itself is a very refreshing and pleasant change than what we've had over the past few years. Keep swinging for the fences and sooner or later you're likely going to "tag" a big one.