Gragg schedules visits

[Music City Hog]

@jeremycrabtree: Arkansas TE commit Will Gragg informed me he'll be @ Ole Miss for Egg Bowl and @ Texas on Dec.12 for official visits  http://t.co/gpCxJJNf8x

[Music City Hog]

@jeremycrabtree: He's taking other visits, so assuming there's some concern with Hog coaches, but still have to feel good about keeping him. @dallboys9


I'm not too concerned

[ricepig]

@jeremycrabtree: He's taking other visits, so assuming there's some concern with Hog coaches, but still have to feel good about keeping him. @dallboys9


I'm not too concerned

I'm not concerned at all.

[Chief Mac]

the losses piling up might be a concern for Gragg but the production of the TEs should be encouraging

[ricepig]

the losses piling up might be a concern for Gragg but the production of the TEs should be encouraging

Shoot, my son said he might go down to the Egg Bowl, I asked why? He said for the party......

[PorkRinds]

Heck if I could get a free trip to the Egg bowl, I'd be there in a heart beat.  I don't think Gragg would have committed if he wasn't sure.  He's smarter than that.

[WBC Hog]

I'm not concerned at all.

[COCHISE]

the losses piling up might be a concern for Gragg but the production of the TEs should be encouraging

The losses had been piling up long before Gragg committed. That shouldn't be an issue.

[online-with-swine]

Didn't he sign a financial aid agreement?

[mhuff]

I think I read about some athlete that signed five different financial aid agreements with various schools.    Doesn't mean locked.

[online-with-swine]

But does that lock the school into them?  I mean, if he decides to go somewhere else are we out of luck with that schollie? Or does it mean we can't simply pull the scholarship?

[ArKan5a5 KiD]

I thought Bielema made a comment they only accepted FAAs from kids they were certain would be Hogs??

[SDZ_Hog]

Didn't he sign a financial aid agreement?

You can sign muliply financial aid agreements and I believe Gragg did.  Puts all the accountablity on the school end.

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

I thought Bielema made a comment they only accepted FAAs from kids they were certain would be Hogs??

That's why he hasn't signed one yet, because he's taking other visits.

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

You can sign muliply financial aid agreements and I believe Gragg did.  Puts all the accountablity on the school end.

He has not signed one yet

[greenie]

But does that lock the school into them?  I mean, if he decides to go somewhere else are we out of luck with that schollie? Or does it mean we can't simply pull the scholarship?

As far as I know, the FAA's are not binding at all.  Kids often sign several of them with different schools that they are considering.

The binding of a scholarship to a person is done in February, on National Signing Day (or sometime thereafter). 

Gragg is set to enroll in January, I believe.  I'm not quite sure how that works since he can't officially sign until Feb 5.  I'm sure one of the many recruiting gurus on here can fix what I've said and fill in the details.

[ricepig]

He has not signed one yet

Correct, he hasn't.

[BatesvilleHOG]

Gragg is a Hog 110%

[WarPig88]

As far as I know, the FAA's are not binding at all.  Kids often sign several of them with different schools that they are considering.

The binding of a scholarship to a person is done in February, on National Signing Day (or sometime thereafter). 

Gragg is set to enroll in January, I believe.  I'm not quite sure how that works since he can't officially sign until Feb 5.  I'm sure one of the many recruiting gurus on here can fix what I've said and fill in the details.

They are meaningless in terms of a commitment being made by either party.

I believe that when they do this it allows coaches more access to the player than would normally be allowed by NCAA recruiting restrictions.

[HoggusMaximus]

I'm always going to get nervous when our recruits go on other visits.

[Music City Hog]

Gragg is a Hog 110%

That's not possible.

[Chief Mac]

Heck if I could get a free trip to the Egg bowl, I'd be there in a heart beat.  I don't think Gragg would have committed if he wasn't sure.  He's smarter than that.

this....regardless if were commited or not, if you were a highly recruited player, how can you not accept a free trip to watch the Egg Bowl, Iron Bowl, etc?  If you love football, going to big rivalry games is a great thing....especially if its free!

[Tim Harris]

They are meaningless in terms of a commitment being made by either party.

I believe that when they do this it allows coaches more access to the player than would normally be allowed by NCAA recruiting restrictions.

If a player signs a FAA with a school it binds the school to him meaning we have to save him a spot but at the same time he can choose to go elsewhere.  That is why the school has to be more cautious about it than the player.

[Tim Harris]

But does that lock the school into them?  I mean, if he decides to go somewhere else are we out of luck with that schollie? Or does it mean we can't simply pull the scholarship?

If someone signs a FAA and then goes elsewhere we could use the spot for another player.  Won't happen though because we wouldn't let someone sign one who might go elsewhere.

[Vantage 8 dude]

They are meaningless in terms of a commitment being made by either party.

I believe that when they do this it allows coaches more access to the player than would normally be allowed by NCAA recruiting restrictions.

If I'm not terribly mistaken while a signed aid agreement binds the school to its commitment it does NOT so bind the recruit.

[WBC Hog]

I remember Bielema saying at the end of NSD last year that we had one guy (Solomon Thomas) sign a FAA and went elsewhere, therefore, it resulted in a minor NCAA violation.

[Hoggish1]

I remember Bielema saying at the end of NSD last year that we had one guy (Solomon Thomas) sign a FAA and went elsewhere, therefore, it resulted in a minor NCAA violation.

Was the violation on Stanford?

[greenie]

The way I understand it, before January of this year, a student could sign as many FAA's as he wanted.  This tied the school to him, but not him to the school.  After signing an FAA, the NCAA's rules regulating contact are suspended, exempting them from dead or quiet periods, so that they can keep recruiting.

However, this loophole was closed in January.  Now, only the FIRST school to get a signed FAA are exempt from the NCAA contact rules.  Schools that get FAA's signed later don't get the same waiver.

See this article for reference:
http://www.ourdailybears.com/baylor-football-recruiting-2014/2014/1/10/5296506/ncaa-interpretation-changes-recruiting-rules-following-commitment

[SemperFi]

the losses piling up might be a concern for Gragg but the production of the TEs should be encouraging

The losing streak ends next Saturday. LSU is going down.

If I had an opportunity to go to this year's Egg Bowl I'd jump on it.

[hogfan2000]

So, I'm watching Gragg in Hamburg.  Looks like BL JR here tonight.  32-0 hamburg.  All I can say is Dumas is terrible, and I hope that is the reason Gragg is invisible.  I'm just being honest, you'd never know he was a SEC player by watching him play.  He looks the part, but it doesn't appear he is a men among boys by watching him play like I thought he would be based on the hype.  He kind of looks like he has checked out which I can understand, but if Barry JR is here, you'd think he'd at least get after it. 

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

I remember Bielema saying at the end of NSD last year that we had one guy (Solomon Thomas) sign a FAA and went elsewhere, therefore, it resulted in a minor NCAA violation.

We got in trouble for Chris Murphy leaving. Solomon Thomas never signed a FAA nor was he eligible for it. Mid term guys only

[collegestationhog]

Gragg and Hill have both been a little quite lately. Their reaction when we break the streak next week will say a lot to where they stand IMO. I imagine its frustrating for them to watch our offense at times and be real enthusiastic.

[hogs24]

Good grief.
100% HOG

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

We got in trouble for Chris Murphy leaving. Solomon Thomas never signed a FAA nor was he eligible for it. Mid term guys only

How did we get in trouble for Murphy deciding to leave the program

[rpmflash]

Gragg and Hill have both been a little quite lately. Their reaction when we break the streak next week will say a lot to where they stand IMO. I imagine its frustrating for them to watch our offense at times and be real enthusiastic.

Hill is making some noise tonight.

END OF THIRD QUARTER: North Little Rock 31, Central 22. K.J. Hill 7 catches, 221 yards, 2 TD (plus a KO TD) so far. #arpreps #arkansas

He had a 4 yd td run in the 4th qtr

[WBC Hog]

How did we get in trouble for Murphy deciding to leave the program

I'd love to know the same thing.

[collegestationhog]

Hill is making some noise tonight.

END OF THIRD QUARTER: North Little Rock 31, Central 22. K.J. Hill 7 catches, 221 yards, 2 TD (plus a KO TD) so far. #arpreps #arkansas

He had a 4 yd td run in the 4th qtr

Yes he did. Big night. I stand corrected on Hill. 

[1highhog]

Yes he did. Big night. I stand corrected on Hill. 

What was the end result on this game?  I had NLR beating Central by at least 5 TD's.  The last few weeks NLR has run away with their opponents, I expected the same with Central, glad to see Hill having a great game, what did he finish with?

[RazorPiggie]

How did we get in trouble for Murphy deciding to leave the program

Didn't get in trouble but it hurt us in losing that scholarship.

[ricepig]

Didn't get in trouble but it hurt us in losing that scholarship.

Well, we didn't lose a scholarship, we lost the player who originally had that scholarship, we still put 85 on scholarship.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

How did we get in trouble for Murphy deciding to leave the program

Because he signed an FAA.

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

Because he signed an FAA.

And??

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

And??

And is not with the U of A.

Just like if he signed an FAA and then signed a National Letter of Intent some where else.

CBB discussed it in his weekly presser the next week after Gragg announced he would sign 5 FAA's.

I'm sure you can find the presser on Wholehogsports

[ricepig]

Because he signed an FAA.

He enrolled and attended for a semester, I don't see the problem.

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

And is not with the U of A.

Just like if he signed an FAA and then signed a National Letter of Intent some where else.

CBB discussed it in his weekly presser the next week after Gragg announced he would sign 5 FAA's.

I'm sure you can find the presser on Wholehogsports

He enrolled here, that's not a problem. The problem is because once a kid signs an FAA, that school can comment about him by name. If he then signs somewhere else on signing day, the coach can get in trouble only if he mentioned him by name. That's why bielema won't sign kids that are still taking visits. He wants to comment on them once they sign an doesn't want to face the violation if the kid goes elsewhere. Murphy situation wasn't an issue.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

He enrolled here, that's not a problem. The problem is because once a kid signs an FAA, that school can comment about him by name. If he then signs somewhere else on signing day, the coach can get in trouble only if he mentioned him by name. That's why bielema won't sign kids that are still taking visits. He wants to comment on them once they sign an doesn't want to face the violation if the kid goes elsewhere. Murphy situation wasn't an issue.

I never said it made sense. We taking about he NCAA

I'm at work now and will find CBB presser when he mentioned it as it appears ppl here are to lazy to look for it. Appears to be August 10th.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z0Okk2WDzPw

found the Correct Video.

[ricepig]

http://www.arkansasfight.com/2014/8/11/5991379/bret-bielema-at-arkansas-media-day-recap

[onebadrubi]

Well, we didn't lose a scholarship, we lost the player who originally had that scholarship, we still put 85 on scholarship.

I'm guessing here but maybe he is saying it hurt us because we could have signed someone else. 

[ricepig]

I'm guessing here but maybe he is saying it hurt us because we could have signed someone else. 

No doubt, as did Pruitt's loss.

[jry04]

Why wouldnt you take a free trip to other schools?