Dominique Reed Crystal Ball

[Vantage 8 dude]

I hope he comes back, but I think this thread is evidence he isn't well loved and respected.

So just because some of feel he's not necessarily ready for the NFL this year he isn't loved and respected? I mean what has he shown ON the field that would make you think that NFL scouts are drooling all over themselves for a shot at him?

I have nothing but respect for any young man who "lays it on the line" for the Hogs. Whether that be practice, in the film room, or the game. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that I feel that every young man who does so is necessarily ready for NFL "prime time".  That's the case with Mr. Hatcher.

[Hogdomer]

So just because some of feel he's not necessarily ready for the NFL this year he isn't loved and respected? I mean what has he shown ON the field that would make you think that NFL scouts are drooling all over themselves for a shot at him?

I have nothing but respect for any young man who "lays it on the line" for the Hogs. Whether that be practice, in the film room, or the game. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that I feel that every young man who does so is necessarily ready for NFL "prime time".  That's the case with Mr. Hatcher.

The articles with scouts' takes are in the thread.  I don't think he'll be picked before the fourth round personally, I just said there is a decent chance he leaves.  Maybe his personal situation is such that a fourth or fifth round pick is worth it, I don't know.  The root world article said the word is he will declare for the draft.  Who knows?

I do know when I brought up the possibility I was lambasted because, I can only assume, the general consensus is that he isn't very good.  My conclusion from that is that he is not well respected. 

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

Hatcher doesn't even have to wait for the Draft Eval paperwork to come back, I'll save the time and anxiety.



It'll just be a handwritten note on a post-it that simply says "Better get your degree kid"

[Supermark101]

Seriously? First off, Williams gets the majority of the carries. Most schools in the country run 2 RBs, if not more. Williams will avoid risk of injury by getting less carries with other quality RBs in out backfield without seeing his production suffer. Rushing for 1,000 yards in the SEC next year would definitely boost his stock.

A majority? Last year He had 150 carries and Alex had 190. This year he has 137 and Alex has 134. Many schools use 2 or more backs, yes, but all but a few have "the guy" It only takes one carry to ruin a career, see Marcus Lattimore.

If you don't think Williams can boost his stock by coming back, then you don't pay attention to college football much. This is a RB heavy draft, and history has shown that RBs haven't fared well in the draft in previous years. Most fall much farther than they should because there isn't as big of a demand in the NFL for them.

This year Melvin Gordon, Ameer Abdullah, Todd Gurley, the Boise RB Ajayi, Tevin Coleman, and Duke Johnson will all go higher than Jonathan Williams. Then you have players like Mike Davis and TJ Yeldon who will be a coin flip as to who goes before each other along with Williams if he were to enter. Last year there wasn't a single RB who went in the first round. This year there will probably be 2, but Williams would likely be slotted around the 4th or 5th round at best. He could wait, let some of these dominant RBs declare after this year, and if he duplicates the season he had this year next season then he will likely slide up into the top 5 prospects at the RB position. CBS doesn't have him as a 2015 draft prospect, and neither does Walter football. Most think he is a great back that will be leaving after next season.

I pay more attention than most, believe me. Just because It is a deep class does not automatically mean RB are going to be drafted higher the year after. A top 5 spot in 2015 will likely still be 3rd to 4th round. If he gets a 3rd or 4th round grade, he should bolt. There is no reason to spend one more years in college, as a running back, when you could be getting paid.

[Vantage 8 dude]

A majority? Last year He had 150 carries and Alex had 190. This year he has 137 and Alex has 134. Many schools use 2 or more backs, yes, but all but a few have "the guy" It only takes one carry to ruin a career, see Marcus Lattimore.

I pay more attention than most, believe me. Just because It is a deep class does not automatically mean RB are going to be drafted higher the year after. A top 5 spot in 2015 will likely still be 3rd to 4th round. If he gets a 3rd or 4th round grade, he should bolt. There is no reason to spend one more years in college, as a running back, when you could be getting paid.

Glad to see and hear you're his advisor. Who knew?

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

Glad to see and hear you're his advisor. Who knew?

He's not wrong

[Vantage 8 dude]

He's not wrong

My comment still stands. And what, pray tell, does that have to do with anything?

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

My comment still stands. And what, pray tell, does that have to do with anything?

That If jwill gets a 3rd or 4th round grade, he would he smart to go

[ricepig]

That If jwill gets a 3rd or 4th round grade, he would he smart to go

Correct, while I want him to stay, that prediction means gon

[scruf]

Two more picks to Arkansas today:

http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Dominique-Reed-at-Coffeyville-CC-48169/CurrentExpertPredictions

Still trying to get my head around the possibility of KJ Hill, Dominique Reed and JoJo Robinson on the field at the same time. I haven't seen this complete a turnover in the WR corps since Jarius Wright's class. This one has a chance to be as good.

[bigdaddyhawg]

Two more picks to Arkansas today:

http://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Dominique-Reed-at-Coffeyville-CC-48169/CurrentExpertPredictions

Still trying to get my head around the possibility of KJ Hill, Dominique Reed and JoJo Robinson on the field at the same time. I haven't seen this complete a turnover in the WR corps since Jarius Wright's class. This one has a chance to be as good.

Doesn't he have to qualify first?

[Chief Mac]

Doesn't he have to qualify first?

That's the rumor...if he is academically G2G for SEC, then he'll be a Hog

[scruf]

Doesn't he have to qualify first?

"...possibility..."

[Oklahawg]

That's the rumor...if he is academically G2G for SEC, then he'll be a Hog

Cannot have an "oops" with JUCO recruits, especially spring grads. They wind up having to take a class over again in the summer when you are planning on them being on campus (already practicing with the team, learning playbooks, hitting the weight room, etc.).

[bigdaddyhawg]

Cannot have an "oops" with JUCO recruits, especially spring grads. They wind up having to take a class over again in the summer when you are planning on them being on campus (already practicing with the team, learning playbooks, hitting the weight room, etc.).

To me, it's an indication of just how highly this staff thinks of this guy that they have stayed with him all this time with his qualifying still up in the air.

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

Cannot have an "oops" with JUCO recruits, especially spring grads. They wind up having to take a class over again in the summer when you are planning on them being on campus (already practicing with the team, learning playbooks, hitting the weight room, etc.).

It worked out ok with Tretola

[AugustaHog]

I think this staff has shown the willingness to gamble on a kid (Tretola, Pruitt, and now Reed), if they have a huge payoff.  I would love to see what our playmakers look like in two years.  Our TE group will be ridiculous by 2016 (Henry's SR season) and the WRs are going to be pretty nasty.  There won't be anybody saying we don't have open receivers to throw to.

[Kevin]

cobi hamilton cannot get on the active roster, and some think hatcher will get drafted.

come on, man

[bigdaddyhawg]

There won't be anybody saying we don't have open receivers to throw to.

Not so fast ...

If our QB has a 50% completion rate, doesn't make many plays with his arms or legs, and we're struggling to win games, then there will most definitely be people blaming it on the WR's.

[cbhawg03]

Hatcher doesn't even have to wait for the Draft Eval paperwork to come back, I'll save the time and anxiety.



It'll just be a handwritten note on a post-it that simply says "Better get your degree kid"

+1 for the laugh. Truth can be funny

[scruf]

I like Hatcher but he's been the Hogs' 1st option a lot this year and he would be a 3rd or 4th option on most SEC teams.

[Uncommon]

Hatcher doesn't even have to wait for the Draft Eval paperwork to come back, I'll save the time and anxiety.

It'll just be a handwritten note on a post-it that simply says "Better get your degree kid"

A little harsh.  Agree that going into the Draft this year would not be wise but he has a shot next year.  Depends on how much he improves in the offseason and how his senior year goes.

[FATHAWG08]

Who was the DB that didn't start but was our punt returner & he declared for the draft it seems around 5 years ago?

[FATHAWG08]

Not so fast ...

If our QB has a 50% completion rate, doesn't make many plays with his arms or legs, and we're struggling to win games, then there will most definitely be people blaming it on the WR's.
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That is option# 1 on HV

[NATEHOGG216]

Who was the DB that didn't start but was our punt returner & he declared for the draft it seems around 5 years ago?

Michael coe?

[NLRHog92]

He doesn't look to be running very hard in his highlights. Maybe he's just that fast, but I'd rather see a 6-3/6-4 guy play with a little more aggression. Really smooth though! Hopefully he can contribute as a deep play threat immediately!

[tophawg19]

NLR he's like Matt Jones was , you really don't get a feel for his speed till you see him run by a really fast player . he can flat fly though and makes tough catches . looking forward to watching him play again

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Michael coe?

Coe transferred. I think he is talking about Jerrell Norton

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

llololololllolololol     yes.  Jerrell Norton.


There's too many fat chicks on campus that pump up these marginal athletes we have.  They just don't have a foot in reality after 3 or 4 years on the hill.

[MissippHog]

He doesn't look to be running very hard in his highlights. Maybe he's just that fast, but I'd rather see a 6-3/6-4 guy play with a little more aggression. Really smooth though! Hopefully he can contribute as a deep play threat immediately!

Reminds me of a slightly faster DeArthur Cowan.  Runs smooth and looks to be gliding along, deceptively fast.

[intelligence]

Hatcher is high on the board's soley for his route running.

[dowils]

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Reminds me of a slightly faster DeArthur Cowan.  Runs smooth and looks to be gliding along, deceptively fast.

I agree

[SemperFi]

Reminds me of a slightly faster DeArthur Cowan.  Runs smooth and looks to be gliding along, deceptively fast.

When watching his highlight video he makes some great catches and is explosive with the ball. My only complaint is that his route running is sloppy and a bit lazy. You can probably contribute the majority of that to the level of competition, but he's going to have to learn to run better routes once he's in the SEC. Just relying on shear athletic ability will not be enough. I think that physically hes ready and will not be jammed at the LOS, but going against SEC and NFL caliber CB's he's going to need some work. Is he coachable and will he do the things that CBB will require of him? I hope so.

[JackJohnson]

When watching his highlight video he makes some great catches and is explosive with the ball. My only complaint is that his route running is sloppy and a bit lazy. You can probably contribute the majority of that to the level of competition, but he's going to have to learn to run better routes once he's in the SEC. Just relying on shear athletic ability will not be enough. I think that physically hes ready and will not be jammed at the LOS, but going against SEC and NFL caliber CB's he's going to need some work. Is he coachable and will he do the things that CBB will require of him? I hope so.

i guess that just depends on how truly elite of a talent he is.  2 years ago Cordarelle Patterson went to Tenn out of JC (playing for Chaney ironically enough) and he couldn't run a route to save his life- and still can't to this day in the NFL which is now of course hurting him.  However they found ways to get him the ball and just let his unbelievable talent make plays. 

Not saying Reed is on that level but more to your point that you don't have to be a precise route runner in college to be a big time playmaker- even in the SEC- if you have that much natural talent

[Oklahawg]

Hatcher is as physical as any WR in the SEC. That will get folks attention - good WRs have to be able to block. Less imposing WR with great hands, speed, etc., still have to block. Might be part of Cobi's deal?

Hatcher isn't fast and will need to fix the dropsies but will be given a chance...but not for another year.

[dbankster]

Dominique Reed is a 4-star now on 247.

[FutureMan]

Dominique Reed is a 4-star now on 247.

He got the ol' Arkansas bump 

[East TN HAWG]

Hatcher definitely has the physical attributes to be an NFL receiver.  He needs to work on ball security.  He has struggled during his career at Arkansas with ball security.    If you drop passes or fumble in the NFL, you are not employed long.

[alwaysnextyear]

Hatcher is as physical as any WR in the SEC. That will get folks attention - good WRs have to be able to block. Less imposing WR with great hands, speed, etc., still have to block. Might be part of Cobi's deal?

Hatcher isn't fast and will need to fix the dropsies but will be given a chance...but not for another year.

Physical? Not hardly. If he were physical he'd be able to come down with some of those tough catches. He's small and not overly fast and lacks great hands. Some on here are nuts. "He's high on boards due to route running." WTH.

[Huckleberry Pig]

Physical? Not hardly. If he were physical he'd be able to come down with some of those tough catches. He's small and not overly fast and lacks great hands. Some on here are nuts. "He's high on boards due to route running." WTH.

don't want to diss a player at all, but I'm with you - don't know where people are coming up with all this NFL talk.  He is valuable for our team and that's great, but I'd be shocked if he made it to the NFL

[alwaysnextyear]

don't want to diss a player at all, but I'm with you - don't know where people are coming up with all this NFL talk.  He is valuable for our team and that's great, but I'd be shocked if he made it to the NFL

Joe Adams and Cobi can't hack it in the NFL. People always think all of our players are going to make it to the league. Very few have meaningful careers.

[Oklahawg]

Physical? Not hardly. If he were physical he'd be able to come down with some of those tough catches. He's small and not overly fast and lacks great hands. Some on here are nuts. "He's high on boards due to route running." WTH.

Do you watch games? Your comment is one of the most retarded comments about a player in a long time. Route running? I don't know about that. He is not small and he is physical. Just watch a game.

[bigdaddyhawg]

Physical? Not hardly. If he were physical he'd be able to come down with some of those tough catches. He's small and not overly fast and lacks great hands. Some on here are nuts. "He's high on boards due to route running." WTH.

From my perspective it seems those are the only kind of catches he ever gets a chance at, the hard ones.

I think he has done a very good job at being a dependable, go-to receiver, with the exception of the Auburn game.

Keep in mind, he's catching passes from a guy who has a serious accuracy problem.

[Hollywood_HOGan45]

Do you watch games? Your comment is one of the most retarded comments about a player in a long time. Route running? I don't know about that. He is not small and he is physical. Just watch a game.

I love the way he punishes CBs after the catch.

[greenie]

Physical? Not hardly. If he were physical he'd be able to come down with some of those tough catches. He's small and not overly fast and lacks great hands. Some on here are nuts. "He's high on boards due to route running." WTH.

One of the primary reasons Hatcher is a starter is that he's physical and supports the run game.  You must be thinking of someone else.

[alwaysnextyear]

Do you watch games? Your comment is one of the most retarded comments about a player in a long time. Route running? I don't know about that. He is not small and he is physical. Just watch a game.

He'll measure about 5'10 190 at the pro day next year.

[alwaysnextyear]

One of the primary reasons Hatcher is a starter is that he's physical and supports the run game.  You must be thinking of someone else.

Who else would start?

[HoggusMaximus]

Anyone know if the kid is going to make the grades?

[redeye]

NLR he's like Matt Jones was , you really don't get a feel for his speed till you see him run by a really fast player . he can flat fly though and makes tough catches . looking forward to watching him play again

Yea, with his long strides, you'd think MJ was just cruising along, but then you'd start noticing separation from those chasing him.  I can remember screaming for him to run harder, only to later realize he didn't need to.

Physical? Not hardly. If he were physical he'd be able to come down with some of those tough catches. He's small and not overly fast and lacks great hands. Some on here are nuts. "He's high on boards due to route running." WTH.

More trolling from alwaysnextyear.   

[onebadrubi]

Yea, with his long strides, you'd think MJ was just cruising along, but then you'd start noticing separation from those chasing him.  I can remember screaming for him to run harder, only to later realize he didn't need to.

More trolling from alwaysnextyear.   

It's ironic when the slam the troll hammer on him there won't be a next year for him!  Ha