Stop the Fire Altman Posts

[WilsonHog]

Dana Altman didn't hold a gun to Frank Broyles head and demand to be hired at UA.

The decision to hire him was made by the athletic director and approved by the chancellor and the system president. If you don't like it, your gripe is with them, not Altman.

Two weeks ago most everyone was screaming "Fire Heath!" myself included. So we fired a coach who had own 20 games in consecutive seasons and made two trips to the NCAA Tournament.

Then most everyone was screaming, "Let JFB make the hire! No committee!" myself included.

Well, JFB fired Heath and he made the hire, just like most everyone wanted.

He also pursued some big name coaches who weren't interested.

We've already garnered the reputation in the media as a fan base that has, to paraphrase, slipped over the edge and is frothing at the mouth. Don't compound it by calling for Coach Altman to be fired before he signs his first recruit, makes his first Razorback Club meeting, or coaches his first game. That's low class.

Dana Altman is very shortly going to be a member of the Razorback family, and he has my support until he demonstrates that he no longer deserves it by what his Arkansas teams do on the floor or what he does off of it. He should have yours as well.     

[jamie72921]

See my post about the shell game.

This is standard operating procedure for Frank. "Pursue" a big name, land a more "affordable" candidate.

That is exactly what happened here too.

Do you honestly believe Frank Broyles is going to land a big name coach under Nutt's salary? That was the real objective and anyone that doesn't believe it hasn't paid attention to Frank over the years.

[little pigee]

Very well put. (I meant by Wilson)

[razornole]

agreed, but prolly not gonna happen.  the masses are pissed and want some satisfaction. 

[The Marmot]

Dana Altman didn't hold a gun to Frank Broyles head and demand to be hired at UA.

The decision to hire him was made by the athletic director and approved by the chancellor and the system president. If you don't like it, your gripe is with them, not Altman.

Two weeks ago most everyone was screaming "Fire Heath!" myself included. So we fired a coach who had own 20 games in consecutive seasons and made two trips to the NCAA Tournament.

Then most everyone was screaming, "Let JFB make the hire! No committee!" myself included.

Well, JFB fired Heath and he made the hire, just like most everyone wanted.

He also pursued some big name coaches who weren't interested.

We've already garnered the reputation in the media as a fan base that has, to paraphrase, slipped over the edge and is frothing at the mouth. Don't compound it be calling for a coach to be fired before he signs his first recruit, makes his first Razorback Club meeting, or coaches his first game. That's low class.

Dana Altman is very shortly going to be a member of the Razorback family, and he has my support until he demonstrates that he no longer deserves it by what his Arkansas teams do on the floor or what he does off of it. He should have yours as well.    

Although I'm not excited right now, I agree with you.

And for the record... I never said let JFB make the hire alone. I hope he flies to Augusta and never comes back.

[jdhoover]

Excellent post Wilson. 

[Hogtropolis™]

Agree.  We need to support him unless he shows us a reason not to.

[bulldog04]

Tru dat

[SMUhogfan]

Great post!  Give the man a chance.  The big guys turned us down, now lets give Dana chance.  He's not the hire we all wanted, but he's got a proven track record and has inherited a team with a ton of talent.  And lets not forget he took a job not knowing who his boss will be in a year and knowing his current boss is senile.  

[razornole]

why was this stickied?

[Mr. Prozac]

We've already garnered the reputation in the media as a fan base that has, to paraphrase, slipped over the edge and is frothing at the mouth. Don't compound it by calling for Coach Altman to be fired before he signs his first recruit, makes his first Razorback Club meeting, or coaches his first game. That's low class.

Dana Altman is very shortly going to be a member of the Razorback family, and he has my support until he demonstrates that he no longer deserves it by what his Arkansas teams do on the floor or what he does off of it. He should have yours as well.     

Amen.

[zhog]

I agree Wilson!

[noprayerfornutt]

Great post, Wilson. 

[Tomhog™]

why was this stickied?

As a warning that any further threads on the topic will be trashed...

[PiggoBitttys]

Thanks wilson.

[budcampbellfan]

It is not Altman's fault.  I will support him to see what happens.  This whole thing was screwed up long before the Stan firing.  Broyles was allowed to stay far far too long. 

[W_KY_Hog]

Dana Altman is very shortly going to be a member of the Razorback family, and he has my support until he demonstrates that he no longer deserves it by what his Arkansas teams do on the floor or what he does off of it. He should have yours as well.     

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[zebra]

Dana Altman is very shortly going to be a member of the Razorback family, and he has my support until he demonstrates that he no longer deserves it by what his Arkansas teams do on the floor or what he does off of it. He should have yours as well.    

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

AMEN

[razorbackfan4life]

I will support the new coach to the fullest, but I'm still displeased with how we went about it.  We could have done better IMO...

[hoglady]

Thank You - the man hasn't done anything to justify the type venom being spewed at him on this board. We should all give him a chance.  If I remember correctly most weren't happy with the Nolan hire either and that worked out OK.

[joebut18]

Great post....it was stickied because he is the voice of reason....get over it!

[jrparrish]

as long as we win...i dont care if hillary clinton is coaching.

[deucea729]

I will at least give Altman a chance.  Wilson is right - he definitely has done nothing to deserve the treatment he is getting from most of us already.  And until we see a full season and full recruiting class from him, it is stupid for us to write him off as a bad deal for the U of A.

That said, can we make Broyles' retirement effective the week before last, please?

[pneaville]

100% agreed.  He has a good group coming in next year, the guy has a proven ability to coach, and we need to let him prove it on the hardwood before we call for his head.

I am a little disappointed we didn't get a "big name" but at the same time we got a guy with a ton of experience and a great record---all at a private school in Omaha.  Jesus we need to grow up.

[softserve]

I'm unimpressed and disheartened by this hire, but Fire Altman posts are just over the top.  Poor Guy, he's probably really excited.

[DEVIL DOG HOG]

We made our bed, now we must sleep in it.

[Boardon Hamsay]

True dat, I've vented all the frustration I need to vent.  We'll see what the guy can do.

[uahogphan63]

Boy, do we ever need to grow up!  It looks to me like there are just people out there waiting to whine and complain about something and they really are just waiting on the next subject they can direct their whining and complaining toward.  I've often said if I walked down the street handing out $100 bills, half the people would complain because they didn't get two of them!  Many of that half must reside on this board!  Good post, Wilson!

[SpareRib]

Right on the money, Wilson.  Altman deserves a Razorback welcome and an honest chance to succeed.

It's past time to criticize or question.  It IS time to support a new coach and give him a shot.

Pork Out :razorback: :razorback: :razorback:

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

I agree with Wilson, but at the same time feel we still have a right to be royally pissed off.  Not at Altman, but at Frank or the PTB, or the BOT, or the OPP.

Altman doesn't deserve the hate.  I can't get excited about this but I can't dog on him for taking the job. 

[tolerati]

I support Altman. He will be a great fit at Arkansas and he has the fire to build a national champion here again.

[scarohr]

Let's all be pissed off but lets give this guy a chance.  He coulc be the next Eddie Sutton.

[DeltaBoy]

Thanks Wilson!

[alwaysrazorback]

Don't take out your hatred for Houston and Frank on Altman.

[fullygruntled]

You nailed it about the class part.

Lot of people here have 0 class.

Go Dana.

[VolHogg]

Altman will be just like Nutt come in and win with Heath's team then after than what?

[Lanlord]

I agree.  This is making us look bad.

[hogsanity]

Let's all be pissed off but lets give this guy a chance.  He coulc be the next Eddie Sutton.

According to some in other threads, Eddie wasnt very good either.

[hogsrmyfav36]

The reality is the majority of the Arkansas fan base is reacting simply because we all know that the 1 change that still needs to happen up on the Hill hasn't and won't happen. 

Our head basketball coach has been fired.  Our AD has been forced to announce his retirement.  1 assistant football coach was run off to Tulsa.  2 of the best players off last years football team were run off.

Yet through all of this, HDN is still standing. 

Unfortunately for Dana Altman, this is the environment he is coming into and that is why people aren't doing backflips over his hiring. 

Razorback fans are just looking for a sign of hope and a reason to get excited about our football and basketball programs.....the future looks cloudy, at best.

[toph27er]

C'mon people.

If you are posting FIRE ALTMAN before the man even steps on campus you are part of the problem and not the true fanbase.

Someone told me that there was a thread over here stating to fire this man...and I didnt believe it with the thoughts that nobody with common sense could want to fire someone who hasnt even yet started the job.

But then again there are always going to be morons with zero things to do and instead spend their time on internet forum boards trying to stir up stuff because there isnt anything going on in their lives.  Well - here is to you...we all recognize your lack of creativity - congrats.

[5 little pigs]

I know attendance will skyrocket with this hiring!

[Since 1894]

Amen

[HOGansHero]

I will support the coach...I know many of us have jumped to conclusions and we do not really even know him.  He may do even better given the resources of the UofA.

[revolution]

Will I support Altman?  I do not.  This is a ridiculous hire.  He shouldn't be hired, then his ultimate firing would be a moot point.  How long are we going to have to put up with this guy?  5 years?  Time to make like Rip van Winkle . . .

[searkhogfan]

Dana Altman didn't hold a gun to Frank Broyles head and demand to be hired at UA.

The decision to hire him was made by the athletic director and approved by the chancellor and the system president. If you don't like it, your gripe is with them, not Altman.

Two weeks ago most everyone was screaming "Fire Heath!" myself included. So we fired a coach who had own 20 games in consecutive seasons and made two trips to the NCAA Tournament.

Then most everyone was screaming, "Let JFB make the hire! No committee!" myself included.

Well, JFB fired Heath and he made the hire, just like most everyone wanted.

He also pursued some big name coaches who weren't interested.

We've already garnered the reputation in the media as a fan base that has, to paraphrase, slipped over the edge and is frothing at the mouth. Don't compound it by calling for Coach Altman to be fired before he signs his first recruit, makes his first Razorback Club meeting, or coaches his first game. That's low class.

Dana Altman is very shortly going to be a member of the Razorback family, and he has my support until he demonstrates that he no longer deserves it by what his Arkansas teams do on the floor or what he does off of it. He should have yours as well.     

Great Post WilsonHog

[Bvilleboar]

I will support him once he is here.  I can't make myself happy about the hiring.  I think we downgraded.

[Austin Sowers]

I now realize that it's more important to operate a budget in the black, than win basketball games.  Thank you JFB.

[SpineHog]

I know attendance will skyrocket with this hiring!

not sure if that's sarcastic or not, but creighton built a new 18,000-seat arena for the guy, and it sells out.  they're in the top 10-15 in attendence this year.

and i know it's been said a hundred times, but the last time we hired a creighton coach with a .6 career win record... it was eddie sutton.

[HeathWimp]

Wilson makes a good point, but it is hard to get excited about Altman.  At the very least, we can keep our mouths shut - "If you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all."

[champ]

Will I am going to support him now that he is here..but everything was done in the wrong way I don't care if that is what Wilson would of done it is not a porfessional way of doing it and are administration is not professional