Tennesee bails out of Schiano deal after fan backlash

[bigpigpimpin]

Wow

[Boarcephus]

Wow

They had one helluva backlash

[Simple Swineman]

They are going to have to pay somebody $10 million and beg them to coach there. Talk about a dumpster fire. No sane coach will set foot on that campus. With all the other job openings available Tennessee will be at the bottom of the list for any decent coach.

[hoginator]

Good ole Rocky Top...

[Cambridge Hog]

They are going to have to pay somebody $10 million and beg them to coach there. Talk about a dumpster fire. No sane coach will set foot on that campus. With all the other job openings available Tennessee will be at the bottom of the list for any decent coach.

Disagree. I think people had a legit reason for not liking the hire. Schiano is the one that is going to have a tough time.

[Hawgphish]

I am not sure about the backlash.  Is it legit?  I don't remember much about Paterno's assistants knowing about the abuse. 

[Eddie Goodson]

I am not sure about the backlash.  Is it legit?  I don't remember much about Paterno's assistants knowing about the abuse. 

Court documents suggest they DID know and did nothing.

[Cambridge Hog]

Court documents suggest they DID know and did nothing.

And that makes him a scumbag of the highest degree. He's toxic.

This is on the foolish hillbillies that thought he was the best they could do.

[Ironhawg]

I am not sure about the backlash.  Is it legit?  I don't remember much about Paterno's assistants knowing about the abuse. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.15c5980415c5

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Court documents suggest they DID know and did nothing.

If he had a 70% winning percentage as a HC, those signs would be completely different.

[Hawgphish]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.15c5980415c5

wow!

[Ironhawg]

wow!

I had no idea about Schiano until this deal with Tennessee.  I kind of wish I didn't know now.

[PORKULATOR]

And that makes him a scumbag of the highest degree. He's toxic.

This is on the foolish hillbillies that thought he was the best they could do.

He actually reported it to the next higher up in the chain of command. He was young and feared backlash the rest of his stay there and was honest and forthcoming with the FBI.
DONT JUST THROW NAMES LIKE SCUMBAG AT PEOPLE WHEN YOU'RE IGNORANT OF THE SITUATION.

[BigSexyHog]

Penn St should be shut down and so should anyone associated with the program when that POS child molester protector was head coach.

[Martygit]

I had no idea about Schiano until this deal with Tennessee.  I kind of wish I didn't know now.

Back then, it was all over the media - the difference is that we didn't have any idea who Schiano was or that he was significant enough to give a $hit about - now he is and it is coming back to haunt him - well deserved

[Eddie Goodson]

If he had a 70% winning percentage as a HC, those signs would be completely different.

No it wouldn't. Those men saw little boys raped and did nothing. The whole bunch should have show cause against them.

[Hawghiggs]

Penn St should be shut down and so should anyone associated with the program when that POS child molester protector was head coach.

Could not agree more.

[island hog]

Wonder if OSU will start getting some heat over him.

[KCRazorbackfan]

They are going to have to pay somebody $10 million and beg them to coach there. Talk about a dumpster fire. No sane coach will set foot on that campus. With all the other job openings available Tennessee will be at the bottom of the list for any decent coach.

And you don't think Arkansas will be close to the bottom of that list also?  Sure, there will be COORDINATORS galore to pick from, but a decent "name" coach?  I sure hope to hell that Hog fans can create a backlash and get the hire stopped if JCP and the BOT pick someone that isn't someone we expect to lead the Hogs back into SEC prominence. 

[FrankCourtneyNicodemus]

NBD. Number 2 on their list has been Gruden.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

No it wouldn't. Those men saw little boys raped and did nothing. The whole bunch should have show cause against them.

Well we'll disagree then.

[Oliver]

If anything this whole ordeal will make life harder (and rightfully so) on Schiano.  Tennessee will have a chance to do it right this time.  I just hope it isn't one of our coaching candidates

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Wetzel has it right.

[Temprees]

They are going to have to pay somebody $10 million and beg them to coach there. Talk about a dumpster fire. No sane coach will set foot on that campus. With all the other job openings available Tennessee will be at the bottom of the list for any decent coach.

I disagree

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Multilayer heresay.

Never came up in any of the criminal proceedings, but was mention by mcQueary during a deposition of the civil case.

[HoggyCat]

They are going to have to pay somebody $10 million and beg them to coach there. Talk about a dumpster fire. No sane coach will set foot on that campus. With all the other job openings available Tennessee will be at the bottom of the list for any decent coach.

They're not gonna have much money left.

For some reason I can't attach pics from my phone now, but there are reports he's due a $20M buyout.

He earned $10M per hour today. 😂😂😂😂

[Tigaman]

They're not gonna have much money left.

For some reason I can't attach pics from my phone now, but there are reports he's due a $20M buyout.

He earned $10M per hour today. 😂😂😂😂

$10 million a week. The rumor was that he signed the contract right after they fired Butch Jones.

[DeltaBoy]

Good move for Tinner!

[moses_007]

They better go back to Phil Fulmer.  Think he was the last successful coach they had.

[HogPharmer]

So there's no "riot" clause in there that lets Tenner off the hook? Lol

[HoggyCat]

$10 million a week. The rumor was that he signed the contract right after they fired Butch Jones.

Contingent upon gruden I suppose?

[urkillnmesmalls]

The reporters on ESPN all day have said that it was politicians that were blocking the move.  That may be the result of fans who have brought GS's past into question, but I don't think you can pin it solely on fans who didn't want him to be the coach.

What is bizarre to me is...why would UT hire him to begin with, if they thought he had ANY knowledge of the heinous things that went on at Penn State.  If there is one thing that has come out of that debacle, it's that if you were anywhere close to being a PSU employee during that time, and you weren't willing to literally physically stop what was going on...you're a monster, and rightfully so.  How do you even hear a RUMOR that was going on, and not do everything in your power to stop it?  Unreal. 

[hoglady]

He actually reported it to the next higher up in the chain of command. He was young and feared backlash the rest of his stay there and was honest and forthcoming with the FBI.
DONT JUST THROW NAMES LIKE SCUMBAG AT PEOPLE WHEN YOU'RE IGNORANT OF THE SITUATION.

I'm sorry but that's a cop out.
If you know or see child abuse you go to the police.
Allowing something like that to be swept under the rug for fear of damaging your career isn't a good reason to stay silent. Report it and find another job at a place that doesn't look the other way while a pedophile rapes kids in the shower.
There's no gray here.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

I'm sorry but that's a cop out.
If you know or see child abuse you go to the police.
Allowing something like that to be swept under the rug for fear of damaging your career isn't a good reason to stay silent. Report it and find another job at a place that doesn't look the other way while a pedophile rapes kids in the shower.
There's no gray here.

None of that was ever said.

It was multilayer hearsay. Both Bradley and Schiano deny it. Schiano Denys it ever happened, and Bradley denies ever having a conversation with McQueary about it.

McQueary said all this AFTER the criminal case was completed.

If he had helped cover it up, then he would have been charged with the rest.

[depressed_fan]

I'm sorry but that's a cop out.
If you know or see child abuse you go to the police.
Allowing something like that to be swept under the rug for fear of damaging your career isn't a good reason to stay silent. Report it and find another job at a place that doesn't look the other way while a pedophile rapes kids in the shower.
There's no gray here.

No one has any proof that's what happened or that's what Schiano witnessed.

Mike Mcqueary just testified in a deposition that's what he heard as a rumor, years after Mcqueary arrived on campus. Years AFTER Schiano was long gone. It was Mcquery's own civil suit against Penn State aledging whistle blower law that Mcqueary testified to this alleged rumor, hearsay.  Well Mcqueary had every logical reason to lie and say he "heard" someone else say what someone else saw years ago, b/c it helps mcqueary's case for damages. Schiano deny's it and hasn't been given any sort of due process over the "rumor"

It's real unfair to Schiano.  The funny this is, Schiano did a great job at Rutgers. Rutgers was horrible from the mid 80's until he got there in 2001 His first 2 years were bad, but if you throw them out his record was real good by Rutgers standards. The interesting thing is, if Tennessee fans had of just educated themselves on what they were reading online, they would probably have a real good football coach tonight. Those people are dumber than our people.   Leave it to them to screw it up like they did running off Fulmer.

[jlhogfan]

No one has any proof that's what happened or that's what Schiano witnessed.

Mike Mcqueary just testified in a deposition that's what he heard as a rumor, years after Mcqueary arrived on campus. Years AFTER Schiano was long gone. It was Mcquery's own civil suit against Penn State aledging whistle blower law that Mcqueary testified to this alleged rumor, hearsay.  Well Mcqueary had every logical reason to lie and say he "heard" someone else say what someone else saw years ago, b/c it helps mcqueary's case for damages. Schiano deny's it and hasn't been given any sort of due process over the "rumor"

It's real unfair to Schiano.  The funny this is, Schiano did a great job at Rutgers. Rutgers was horrible from the mid 80's until he got there in 2001 His first 2 years were bad, but if you throw them out his record was real good by Rutgers standards. The interesting thing is, if Tennessee fans had of just educated themselves on what they were reading online, they would probably have a real good football coach tonight. Those people are dumber than our people.   Leave it to them to screw it up like they did running off Fulmer.

lol...My new favorite quote

[urkillnmesmalls]

How do you prove that he didn't know?  Isn't it just his word against anyone else's even if someone comes forward and says they knew he had knowledge of it? 

That's a tough spot to be in, and being falsely accused is also a horrible spot to be in.  Has more than one person come forward to suggest he had any knowledge of the situation? 

[hoglady]

No one has any proof that's what happened or that's what Schiano witnessed.

Mike Mcqueary just testified in a deposition that's what he heard as a rumor, years after Mcqueary arrived on campus. Years AFTER Schiano was long gone. It was Mcquery's own civil suit against Penn State aledging whistle blower law that Mcqueary testified to this alleged rumor, hearsay.  Well Mcqueary had every logical reason to lie and say he "heard" someone else say what someone else saw years ago, b/c it helps mcqueary's case for damages. Schiano deny's it and hasn't been given any sort of due process over the "rumor"

It's real unfair to Schiano.  The funny this is, Schiano did a great job at Rutgers. Rutgers was horrible from the mid 80's until he got there in 2001 His first 2 years were bad, but if you throw them out his record was real good by Rutgers standards. The interesting thing is, if Tennessee fans had of just educated themselves on what they were reading online, they would probably have a real good football coach tonight. Those people are dumber than our people.   Leave it to them to screw it up like they did running off Fulmer.

Why did the judge ever make that deposition public??
Seems pretty unfair to all involved.
Seems the names could have been redacted or something.

[LRRandy]

No one has any proof that's what happened or that's what Schiano witnessed.

Mike Mcqueary just testified in a deposition that's what he heard as a rumor, years after Mcqueary arrived on campus. Years AFTER Schiano was long gone. It was Mcquery's own civil suit against Penn State aledging whistle blower law that Mcqueary testified to this alleged rumor, hearsay.  Well Mcqueary had every logical reason to lie and say he "heard" someone else say what someone else saw years ago, b/c it helps mcqueary's case for damages. Schiano deny's it and hasn't been given any sort of due process over the "rumor"

It's real unfair to Schiano.  The funny this is, Schiano did a great job at Rutgers. Rutgers was horrible from the mid 80's until he got there in 2001 His first 2 years were bad, but if you throw them out his record was real good by Rutgers standards. The interesting thing is, if Tennessee fans had of just educated themselves on what they were reading online, they would probably have a real good football coach tonight. Those people are dumber than our people.   Leave it to them to screw it up like they did running off Fulmer.

None of that was ever said.

It was multilayer hearsay. Both Bradley and Schiano deny it. Schiano Denys it ever happened, and Bradley denies ever having a conversation with McQueary about it.

McQueary said all this AFTER the criminal case was completed.

If he had helped cover it up, then he would have been charged with the rest.

both correct. What happened at Penn St was horrible. Attaching  Schiano to it without proof is asinine.

[depressed_fan]

How do you prove that he didn't know?  Isn't it just his word against anyone else's even if someone comes forward and says they knew he had knowledge of it? 

That's a tough spot to be in, and being falsely accused is also a horrible spot to be in.  Has more than one person come forward to suggest he had any knowledge of the situation? 

I doubt it seriously. No one has to prove he didn't know, b/c he's not on trial for knowingly covering it up. Tennessee people are merely going off a rumor Mcqueary said in a deposition that he heard. Which helped Mcqueary's claim in a deposition by suggesting it in the first place. Which in a trial A judge would have struck from the record. In a damn deposition you can say whatever you want to say.

[S.A.D.C]

How do you prove that he didn't know?  Isn't it just his word against anyone else's even if someone comes forward and says they knew he had knowledge of it? 

That's a tough spot to be in, and being falsely accused is also a horrible spot to be in.  Has more than one person come forward to suggest he had any knowledge of the situation? 

Wrong question... the question is can you prove he DID know?  You can't prove he didn't know but the burden of proof should always be on proving he DID know.  Innocence until proven guilty is the bedrock of our justice system and sadly it seems to never translate to the court of public opinion.

Be clear on the facts here:  ONE person told this story (and the story was what someone else told them Schiano said to them).  That is the definition of hearsay.  There are 1,000s of pages of legal proceedings around all of these cases (the criminal and multiple civil) and this came up in one deposition.  The DA was VERY aggressive in going after ANYONE they thought they had evidence on in this case and the DA never pursued anything on Schiano.  There is LITERALLY no evidence he saw anything, just one guy's testimony in a civil case. 

[S.A.D.C]

Court documents suggest they DID know and did nothing.

That is misleading.  By court documents you mean ONE deposition.  And by suggest you mean complete hearsay. 

There are 1,000s of documents about this case- his name was mentioned in ONE deposition.  There is zero evidence- just one person telling what another person told him years before.

[S.A.D.C]

No it wouldn't. Those men saw little boys raped and did nothing. The whole bunch should have show cause against them.

Agree completely:  anyone who saw anything and did nothing should have a show cause or be in jail.  But it is very likely that Schiano wasn't one of those men.  There is almost no evidence to suggest he saw anything.  Better be DAMN sure someone is guilty before ending their career. 

[nashvilletnhogfan]

I know nothing about this website but interesting take defending Schiano.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/the-twitter-mob-is-trying-to-destroy-greg-schiano-and-they-are-100-wrong/

[Großer Kriegschwein]

How do you prove that he didn't know?  Isn't it just his word against anyone else's even if someone comes forward and says they knew he had knowledge of it? 

That's a tough spot to be in, and being falsely accused is also a horrible spot to be in.  Has more than one person come forward to suggest he had any knowledge of the situation? 

The only one is McQueary, and it did not come out during the criminal proceedings. It came out in a deposition he gave for a case between the university and their insurance company in 2015.

[NaturalStateReb]

Tennessee could do worse than Schiano, and soon will.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Tennessee could do worse than Schiano, and soon will.

Virtually guaranteed

[leroyhawg]

Back then, it was all over the media - the difference is that we didn't have any idea who Schiano was or that he was significant enough to give a $hit about - now he is and it is coming back to haunt him - well deserved

If he reported it how can you hold him responsible, with all the sexual abuse cases in the news from political figures, President included, Stars from TV. Sexual abuse has been here forever and it's not going away the people that condemn it the most are usually perps.

Let this guy go thru a judge and see if he did anything wrong, give people a chance to clear their name before you condemn.

[Biggus Piggus]

This whole story is hilarious.

[pigture perfect]

The thing about pedophilia is that you can be completely innocent, and yet be found completely guilty because of a false accusation. Whether it's true or not, his life is messed up. If his accuser is ever found to be a liar, they should be thrown under the jail.