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October 08, 2017, 09:36:21 am Last Edit: October 29, 2017, 10:43:07 am by BR
Can Arkansas get 3 more Wins to make a Bowl Game?? 3-5 right now... Not sure they can, BAMA will destroy us next week. Bret Bielema is now 11-26 in SEC and 28-31 overall.. Plus he is an OUTSTANDING 1-18 if we are behind at half.. We have the worst O-Line in the SEC. SEC Network showed a graphic that Austin Allen is hit more than any QB in the country the last 2 year's - and it's not close.  On the bright side, we made our first field goal of the year today, in the 5th game.. Still a Hog Fan, but realistic... "Time for some Changes"..  "Come on Hogs "

Oct. 14 at No. 1 Alabama (very bad loss)
Oct. 21 No. 12 Auburn (very bad loss)
Oct. 28 at Ole Miss (toss up)  WON


Nov. 4 Coastal Carolina (WIN)

Nov. 11 at LSU (Loss)  could be close, team might have a little momentum after 2 wins in a row....
Nov. 18 No. 24 Mississippi State (LOSS) after what they did to A*M it's not looking good....
Nov. 24 Missouri (tossup)  Don't think our "D" can hold Missouri under 40

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HiggiePiggy

Ole miss, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, and Carolina coastal. 

All of these teams are as bad as us and we will have a chance depending on if the team is still behind Beliema.
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jgphillips3

No.  I mean, is it technically possible, yes, but this team will be 2-5 and have been demolished three weeks in a row heading into Ole Miss.  I just don't see us holding it together enough to rip off more than maybe 3 at max and I think that is doubtful.  It's really looking like a 4-8 type year or 5-7 at absolute best with 3-9 a very, very real possibility.

lakecityhog

Yes, we absolutely get 4 wins. We have to play the game with 1 mindset and 1 mindset alone, TAKE WHAT THE DEFENSE GIVES YOU!!!

This stupid philosophy of "we have to run the ball" has got to go away. 5 O'Linemen cannot block 7 D'Linemen/LB's. We had success when we threw the ball on 1st down, we failed when we ran the ball on 1st down and tried to overcome 2nd-9 or 2nd-10 because they blitzed the passer even harder.

BR

I think Bert will lose total control of this team after BAMA & AUBURN roll us.. I think the players will see the writing on the wall after a 2-5 start.
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KennyForAD

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on October 08, 2017, 09:52:44 am
Ole miss, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, and Carolina coastal. 

All of these teams are as bad as us and we will have a chance depending on if the team is still behind Beliema.

One of those is as bad as we

SoonerSooie

Personally, I don't see us beating Ole Miss. They do lots of what we do not defend. Missouri will almost assuredly play their "game of the year."
CC? With the mental state of the Hogs as it is-- and will be after Bama is through with us, toss up.

What I saw yesterday was truly disturbing. Total incompetence in every phase, against a team that supposedly had no offense, and only a "decent" defense. They had the one good win early in the year, indicating capability, but since then they were bad, until we came to town and made them look like a play off contender. Just a sad situation.

Truly perplexing is that we played TCU a lot better. That final score was not indicative of how close the game was. Our game against A&M showed great potential, especially in light of how they played Bama. And then comes yesterday!  AAAAACCCCKKKKK! Total self destruction.

I don't see four more wins this year, and I am normally a pretty optimistic guy.

KennyForAD

Quote from: lakecityhog on October 08, 2017, 10:01:55 am
Yes, we absolutely get 4 wins. We have to play the game with 1 mindset and 1 mindset alone, TAKE WHAT THE DEFENSE GIVES YOU!!!

This stupid philosophy of "we have to run the ball" has got to go away. 5 O'Linemen cannot block 7 D'Linemen/LB's. We had success when we threw the ball on 1st down, we failed when we ran the ball on 1st down and tried to overcome 2nd-9 or 2nd-10 because they blitzed the passer even harder.

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East Clintwood

Why do you want to go to a participation bowl?

I understand that the additional practice time should make qualifying for one of the throwaway bowls worthwhile but with this staff I don't think it helps anyone at all -- they don't know how to develop players.
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Danny J

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on October 08, 2017, 09:52:44 am
Ole miss, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, and Carolina coastal. 

All of these teams are as bad as us and we will have a chance depending on if the team is still behind Beliema.
This ^^^

We have a chance to win 5 maybe 6 if he hasn't lost the team or staff. As emotional as many are, I am upset as well, MSU and Mizzou are not good teams and we get them at home. I could see us sneaking up on Ole Miss as well. They have their own problems. I think it's POSSIBLE to win 6 but more than likely 4 or 5. If i were betting I would say 5.

lakecityhog

Kenny, I didn't say that I thought we would, I just said we could. When we opened a series throwing the ball on 1st down yesterday we were successful, then we would revert to a 1st down run and bog down.

ANY decent SEC defense can STOP the run game if they do not fear the pass. When our tendency is to run the ball on 1st down and to run it thru the A gap a competent DC will run blitz the A gap and stop you for little to no gain. Then you are facing a real BLITZ on 2nd and 3rd down.

Guys, it's called COACHING! Recognizing what the other guy is doing and making ADJUSTMENTS to counteract. Our coaching staff simply refuses to adjust, we have a plan and we stick to it.

Vantage 8 dude

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on October 08, 2017, 09:52:44 am
Ole miss, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, and Carolina coastal. 

All of these teams are as bad as us and we will have a chance depending on if the team is still behind Beliema.
While I'd like to think so, what's this exactly what a lot were saying this past week before going to USCe? Just wondering.

hogcard1964

October 08, 2017, 10:22:11 am #12 Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 10:34:33 am by hogcard1964
Quote from: BR on October 08, 2017, 10:02:01 am
I think Bert will lose total control of this team after BAMA & AUBURN roll us.. I think the players will see the writing on the wall after a 2-5 start.

He lost the team last year during the Auburn debacle.  They completely quit playing during that game.

 

Bacons Rebellion

We'll beat Coastal Carolina, and I suspect we will beat Missouri as the players' sendoff game for Bielema. That's just the way that game usually works. As messed up as the SEC is, I think we might stumble into a win against either Ole Miss, LSU, of Mississippi State, but I think 5-7 is on the upper end of the probability curve. Not seeing 4 more wins.

Boardon Hamsay

Coastal should be, minus overreaction based emotion, a lock. Mizzou is a toss up at best with OM being slightly less favorable. MSU is even less likely followed by LSU. Bama and Auburn will do things to us that should be considered illegal in most states. Hard to see more than 5 wins at best. More likely, we beat Coastal and 1 of OM, MSU, Mizzou, and LSU. 4-8 feels right assuming no changes are made in staff, starters, etc.
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BR

NOW we are BAMA's Homecoming date on ESPN.....
The Crimson Tide (5-0, 2-0 SEC) will host Arkansas for homecoming on Saturday, Oct. 14 at 7:15 p.m. ET at Bryant-Denny Stadium. The game will be televised on ESPN.
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PygmalionEffect2

QuoteWe have the worst O-Line in the SEC. SEC Network showed a graphic that Austin Allen is hit more than any QB in the country the last 2 year's - and it's not close.

Watch other teams and see how often the linemen create a 4 second impervious cocoon for their QB to throw from.

A lot of that is on AA.  He gets run down by DTs and he's the worst I've ever seen at Arkansas at being able to scramble for positive yardage when the protection breaks down with the possible exception of Mallet where it usually wasn't a problem because his reads and release were so much faster than AA.
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hoghearted

Quote from: Vantage 8 dude on October 08, 2017, 10:18:18 am
While I'd like to think so, what's this exactly what a lot were saying this past week before going to USCe? Just wondering.

Exactly
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Boardon Hamsay

Quote from: BR on October 08, 2017, 10:39:22 am
NOW we are BAMA's Homecoming date on ESPN.....
The Crimson Tide (5-0, 2-0 SEC) will host Arkansas for homecoming on Saturday, Oct. 14 at 7:15 p.m. ET at Bryant-Denny Stadium. The game will be televised on ESPN.


The line on this should minimally be Bama -35.
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Locutus_of_Boar

Saban, purely for business reasons will make sure his team plays a perfect game.

Gus, purely to spite the Arkansas administration will pour it on as well.

Both of those games have the potential to be mind numbing poundings.

If South Carolina can find a way to score 48 points so can Ole Miss.  By that time Kelley will be starting and he might keep drives alive long enough to keep Arkansas in it but this is probably a shootout loss.

Coastal Carolina arrives and departs quietly, check in hand.

Ed the Ogre struggling to find anything to please the mob in Baton Rouge will not miss the opportunity.

Another 50 something to 20 something track meet loss to MSU.

On a cold, rainy Friday in front of a mostly empty house two dead men coaching have their teams put on a not good but surprisingly entertaining game where Mizzou out-goofs Arkansas for once.

4-8.  For the five years 29-34.


PolishPigPower

Quote from: hogcard1964 on October 08, 2017, 10:46:44 am
I read it opened at only -21.  Thought it would be higher.

Put a grand on Bama while you can lock in that spread, and take the over.
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PolishPigPower

Quote from: BR on October 08, 2017, 09:36:21 am
Can Arkansas get 4 more Wins to make a Bowl Game?? 2-3 right now... Not sure they can, BAMA will destroy us next week. Bret Bielema is now 10-24 in SEC and 27-29 overall.. Plus he is an OUTSTANDING 0-16 if we are behind at half.. We have the worst O-Line in the SEC. SEC Network showed a graphic that Austin Allen is hit more than any QB in the country the last 2 year's - and it's not close.  On the bright side, we made our first field goal of the year today, in the 5th game.. Still a Hog Fan, but realistic... "Time for some Changes"..  "Come on Hogs "

Oct. 14 at No. 1 Alabama (very bad loss)
Oct. 21 No. 12 Auburn (loss)
Oct. 28 at Ole Miss (toss up)
Nov. 4 Coastal Carolina (WIN)
Nov. 11 at LSU (Loss)
Nov. 18 No. 24 Mississippi State (Tossup)
Nov. 24 Missouri (tossup)


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October 08, 2017, 11:11:38 am #25 Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 11:57:19 am by BR
Plus the fact Texas A*M played BAMA close, SABAN will want to hang 100 on us if he can. If the spread is 21 right now.. BET the Bank on it.  I just checked all the Vegas sites I could and no lines are up yet..
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Al Boarland

Quote from: Danny J on October 08, 2017, 10:12:14 am
This ^^^

We have a chance to win 5 maybe 6 if he hasn't lost the team or staff. As emotional as many are, I am upset as well, MSU and Mizzou are not good teams and we get them at home. I could see us sneaking up on Ole Miss as well. They have their own problems. I think it's POSSIBLE to win 6 but more than likely 4 or 5. If i were betting I would say 5.

Getting teams at home means nothing at this point. MS St is a better team than we are. The have a mobile QB and a better defense.

PonderinHog

Quote from: KennyForAD on October 08, 2017, 10:04:40 am
One of those is as bad as we
I just don't see it, Kenny.  Maybe four wins total. Mizzou and Coastal Carolina.  This is the end.

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rhog1

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on October 08, 2017, 09:52:44 am
Ole miss, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, and Carolina coastal. 

All of these teams are as bad as us and we will have a chance depending on if the team is still behind Beliema.
Those 4 teams are the only chance. lose any one of them and bowling is out.

RollHogTide

Is 6-6 a possibility, yes; however, I would be more inclined to believe 5-7.

PonderinHog


BR

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Quote from: thebignasty on April 03, 2019, 12:07:41 pmExploitation of quantum mechanics pretty much has to be addressed in the NCAA handbook.
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Redhogs

Will I live long enough to see us win again? Will any of us?

TNRazorbacker

No way. We have better than average shot at Ole Miss and Mizzou, but not good enough chances to count on wins. Bama and Auburn are sure beat downs. The remainder are toss ups at best- and Bielema has never fared well in closely matched contests.

5-7 at best at this point, 3-9 entirely possible.

HF#1

The games you suggested that are tossups, are not tossups. Coastal Carolina is the only guarantee. 3-9 is a real possibility.
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Hawgphish

Quote from: BR on October 08, 2017, 09:36:21 am
Can Arkansas get 4 more Wins to make a Bowl Game?? 2-3 right now... Not sure they can, BAMA will destroy us next week. Bret Bielema is now 10-24 in SEC and 27-29 overall.. Plus he is an OUTSTANDING 0-16 if we are behind at half.. We have the worst O-Line in the SEC. SEC Network showed a graphic that Austin Allen is hit more than any QB in the country the last 2 year's - and it's not close.  On the bright side, we made our first field goal of the year today, in the 5th game.. Still a Hog Fan, but realistic... "Time for some Changes"..  "Come on Hogs "

Oct. 14 at No. 1 Alabama (very bad loss)
Oct. 21 No. 12 Auburn (loss)
Oct. 28 at Ole Miss (toss up)
Nov. 4 Coastal Carolina (WIN)
Nov. 11 at LSU (Loss)
Nov. 18 No. 24 Mississippi State (Tossup)
Nov. 24 Missouri (tossup)
those tossups are winable only if we are leading at half...

BR

"Cause I love Cajun martinis and playin' afternoon golf"

Dirty

Why? No reason to give an once to save the coaches job!

EulessHog

The only bowling will be Bielema's head.
Go Hogs Go!

Iwastherein1969

Quote from: BR on October 08, 2017, 04:25:35 pm
BAMA now  29.5
They are going to beat us like a rented mule...make the score  UA  77     UA  0      and Bert will tell us all how we had a great week practicing, how we did everything right and that we just have to continue to build on learning from our mistakes, oh and the well known, half grown line of, "we just need to execute better"
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Roaringboar

Quote from: BR on October 08, 2017, 09:36:21 am
Can Arkansas get 4 more Wins to make a Bowl Game?? 2-3 right now... Not sure they can, BAMA will destroy us next week. Bret Bielema is now 10-24 in SEC and 27-29 overall.. Plus he is an OUTSTANDING 0-16 if we are behind at half.. We have the worst O-Line in the SEC. SEC Network showed a graphic that Austin Allen is hit more than any QB in the country the last 2 year's - and it's not close.  On the bright side, we made our first field goal of the year today, in the 5th game.. Still a Hog Fan, but realistic... "Time for some Changes"..  "Come on Hogs "

Oct. 14 at No. 1 Alabama (very bad loss)
Oct. 21 No. 12 Auburn (loss)
Oct. 28 at Ole Miss (toss up)
Nov. 4 Coastal Carolina (WIN)
Nov. 11 at LSU (Loss)
Nov. 18 No. 24 Mississippi State (Tossup)
Nov. 24 Missouri (tossup)

No way......Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, LSU, and Miss State are going to be losses. No way we get past them.....
Let's all get aboard the LANE TRAIN BABY!!!! CHOOO-CHOOO!!!

rzrbk4life

If we get to 6-6 and go to a crappy bowl will that really change anyone's outlook? I didn't think so
Let's call those hogs!!!!

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SoonerSooie

Quote from: BR on October 08, 2017, 10:39:22 am
NOW we are BAMA's Homecoming date on ESPN.....
The Crimson Tide (5-0, 2-0 SEC) will host Arkansas for homecoming on Saturday, Oct. 14 at 7:15 p.m. ET at Bryant-Denny Stadium. The game will be televised on ESPN.


I would like to recommend that they reschedule the game, to be aired at 1 AM eastern lower Slobovia time, with an announcement on the screen that says "Due to the application of a new, "mercy rule" the game has been blacked out for viewers in the SEC."


EastexHawg

Quote from: KennyForAD on October 08, 2017, 10:06:21 am
Delusions are hard to escape

Apparently.  Bielema was 10-22 in SEC play going into this year, but a lot of people were still predicting a 9-10 win season.  Based on what?

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jkstock04

Quote from: EastexHawg on October 08, 2017, 05:22:32 pm
Apparently.  Bielema was 10-22 in SEC play going into this year, but a lot of people were still predicting a 9-10 win season.  Based on what?
Here is a quote from a "level headed" guy:

"Top line QB and backs. Real speed at receiver. An Oline that will be top 3 in the SEC. A defense  that will be much improved and more disruptive. A solid kicking game and a favorable schedule. Copy, paste and print it off, we will win 10 games this year. No brag just fact. :razorback:"

This is the type of stuff that was hyped all offseason. These are the integrity people that will tell you 2010 was an awful season and we have much better coaching now.
Thanks for the F Shack. 

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SemperHawg

Quote from: HiggiePiggy on October 08, 2017, 09:52:44 am
Ole miss, LSU, Mississippi State, Missouri, and Carolina coastal. 

All of these teams are as bad as us and we will have a chance depending on if the team is still behind Beliema.
Mizzou MIGHT and I stress might, be as bad as us.  The rest of those teams are better than us, coaching, players, the whole package.  I have us getting Coastal Carolina and then winning at home against Mizzou on Thanksgiving weekend with dozens of Razorback fans looking on.