Someone needs fired

[draftkings33]

So Irwin Hill starting kicker for Cowboys tonite.  Never even kicked for Hogs? 

[draftkings33]

He was there a year when Hocker wasn't playing wasn't he?

[bennyl08]

Why didn't Sprinkle get more playing time from 2013 to 2015???

[Hollywood870]

I'm retired now you guys.

[factchecker]

Sam Irwin Hill was here during the 2013 and 2014 seasons.

Hocker was kicker in 2013 so..... Hill wasn't going to replace him.

In 2014 Hill actually kicked off 18 times but the duties primarily went to McFain.

Adam McFain     45     60.29 avg. yards   10 touchbacks
Sam Irwin-Hill     18     61.89 avg. yards   6   touchbacks

Irwin-Hill had a higher touchback % but he was primarily used as our punter in 2014.  He was never used for place kicking (field goals or extra points).  McFain was the primary place kicker and went 20/20 for extra points and 7/10 on field goals.

[ADavisTheGOAT]

McFain should have been kicking for us throughout the entire 14' season.

[go hogues]

SIH Had one of the coolest plays ever when he faked the Ozzie rules kick and ran for a TD at Jerry World.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

It's offficial.  We'll bitch about anything.

[TebowHater]

McFain should have been kicking for us throughout the entire 14' season.

Do you mean SIH? If so, you're correct.

[Hogdomer]

The kicking game directly lost us two games in 2014.  Texas A&M and Alabama.  That's not debateable.  Irwin-Hill would have been a huge improvement in field goals, extra points and kickoffs.  That's not debateable either.

[ADavisTheGOAT]

Do you mean SIH? If so, you're correct.

Either one would have been fine. Both were better options than Henson.

[PorkRinds]

The kicking game directly lost us two games in 2014.  Texas A&M and Alabama.  That's not debateable.  Irwin-Hill would have been a huge improvement in field goals, extra points and kickoffs.  That's not debateable either.

Both of those things are debatable.

[RebelW]

Why didn't Sprinkle get more playing time from 2013 to 2015???

Because 2 guys named Derby and Henry were better

[Arkansasno1]

Because 2 guys named Derby and Henry were better

That was his point.

[WizardofhOgZ]

So Irwin Hill starting kicker for Cowboys tonite.  Never even kicked for Hogs?

I'm pulling for Sam to get an NFL gig, but he did not "start" for Dallas tonight - not in the sense that he's running first team.

He is, essentially, a "camp leg" to keep the Dallas starters (Jones, the punter; and Bailey, the placement specialist) from having to kick so much during camp.  Both of those guys are among the top 5 in the league in their respective specialties, and in NO danger of losing their job to Sam or anyone else.

This does give Sam a chance to showcase his skills in case someone else is looking to improve their kicking situation, so I'm glad he's getting this opportunity.  But to say that he's "Starting" for Dallas is misleading and incorrect.

[searkhogfan]

Look up Zach Hocker

^^^ THIS

[Hogs49ers]

Is this really happening??  The kicker position is probably the easiest position to evaluate, which ever kicker is kicking FGs at a higher % in practice, is likely going to start unless he has a huge problem with the nerves of kicking in front 70,000 fans.  My point is that if SIH was the better kicker during his time here, he would have been the guy.

[Steef]

It's offficial.  We'll bitch about anything.

I really hate to even post in this dumb argument.

But this was too perfect not to quote.

[Hogdomer]

Both of those things are debatable.

We lost to Bama 14-13 and missed a chip shot field goal and an extra point.  We missed a chip shot field goal in the fourth quarter against A&M that would have sealed the game.  Irwin-Hill has proven at the professional level, with narrower goalposts, that he is a better kicker than whoever we tried in 2014.

[Dillar Dog]

See?  You're proving yourself wrong on your statement.

It is debatable.

[Vantage 8 dude]

We lost to Bama 14-13 and missed a chip shot field goal and an extra point.  We missed a chip shot field goal in the fourth quarter against A&M that would have sealed the game.  Irwin-Hill has proven at the professional level, with narrower goalposts, that he is a better kicker than whoever we tried in 2014.

Whether true or not, to go into a "someone should have been fired" rant for something that happened back three or four years ago is totally ludicrous. How about we go ahead and argue whether or not whether or not Broyles should have been fired after a 5-5 season in 1963? Makes about as much sense. Some folks will b%tch about anything!!

[Supermark101]

at the professional level, with narrower goalposts.

Do you even watch football?

[King Kong]

We lost to Bama 14-13 and missed a chip shot field goal and an extra point.  We missed a chip shot field goal in the fourth quarter against A&M that would have sealed the game.  Irwin-Hill has proven at the professional level, with narrower goalposts, that he is a better kicker than whoever we tried in 2014.

The Extra Point was blocked and the Missed FG had a lot to do with the Rain

[factchecker]

We lost to Bama 14-13 and missed a chip shot field goal and an extra point.  We missed a chip shot field goal in the fourth quarter against A&M that would have sealed the game.  Irwin-Hill has proven at the professional level, with narrower goalposts, that he is a better kicker than whoever we tried in 2014.

1. The extra point against Bama was blocked.  We didn't miss a field goal against Bama.  Alabama's kicker (Adam Griffith) missed a 30 yard field goal in the 2nd quarter.

2. Chipshot does not = 44 yard field goal.  We missed a 44 yard field goal against AnM in the 4th quarter.

3. Both goalposts in the NFL and NCAA are both 18 feet - 6 inches wide.

http://www.stack.com/a/the-dimensions-of-a-football-field

NFL and NCAA goal posts are 18 feet, 6 inches wide

[RaisinHog]

Hocker was signed by Tampa bay today

[bennyl08]

Hocker was signed by Tampa bay today

They spend a 2nd round pick on a kicker just last year and after 1 season and a summer, cut him.

On paper, the FSU kicker was as sure a bet as there could be. No idea why he's been bad at the NFL.

Nick Folk is a good veteran kicker who's been with the team this off-season so Hocker is likely just a camp leg. That said, it's not like they are married to Folk as a kicker so if Hocker impresses, he has a chance.

[southeasthog]

Hocker was signed by Tampa bay today

I hope he can make the team.

[Noonan]

https://www.google.com/amp/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/13/bucs-sign-kicker-zach-hocker/amp/

Glad to see him get another shot shot in the NFL.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

So...did draftkings33 ever decide who should be fired?

[longpig]

They spend a 2nd round pick on a kicker just last year and after 1 season and a summer, cut him.

The boneheadest pick of all time. 

[twistitup]

Nb

[Pig in the Pokey]

Look up Zach Hocker

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000829456/article/tampa-bay-buccaneers-sign-kicker-zach-hocker

[hogsanity]

Is this really happening??  The kicker position is probably the easiest position to evaluate, which ever kicker is kicking FGs at a higher % in practice, is likely going to start unless he has a huge problem with the nerves of kicking in front 70,000 fans.  My point is that if SIH was the better kicker during his time here, he would have been the guy.

apparently it is not so easy since a NFL team burned a 2nd round pick on a kicker in 2016 and cut him last weekend.

[texas tush hog]

Not sure which part of ST he coached, but Rory Segrest oversaw some aspect of the kicking game and he got canned. So there ya go

Yea, so somebody was fired, so there you go. You have your sacrificial lamb.

[Hogs49ers]

apparently it is not so easy since a NFL team burned a 2nd round pick on a kicker in 2016 and cut him last weekend.

Well at the time, he was obviously the best kicker on his college team and played really well and was arguably the best kicker in the nation.  Players can get better or they can get worse based on their work effort.  SIH has obviously gotten better, but at the time, he was not the best kicker on our team.

Also, I never said it was easy, but said that it was the easiest position to evaluate.  So are you arguing my point by saying that the kicker is not the easiest position to evaluate or are you just arguing to argue?

[hogsanity]

Well at the time, he was obviously the best kicker on his college team and played really well and was arguably the best kicker in the nation.  Players can get better or they can get worse based on their work effort.  SIH has obviously gotten better, but at the time, he was not the best kicker on our team.

Also, I never said it was easy, but said that it was the easiest position to evaluate.  So are you arguing my point by saying that the kicker is not the easiest position to evaluate or are you just arguing to argue?

In a thread about a player that is probably just kicking in the pre season to keep the actual kickers from having to kick does it really matter why anyone i saying anything?

[Hogs49ers]

In a thread about a player that is probably just kicking in the pre season to keep the actual kickers from having to kick does it really matter why anyone i saying anything?

So why say anything at all?  Nothing anyone says on Hogville means anything or actually matters.

[Razorbackers]

It's offficial.  We'll bitch about anything.

hahahahahaha

[HawgTrough]

I hope he can make the team.

He's played enough to be recognized by NFL GM's. Teams ditch kickers so often, he'll get plenty of opportunities. I think he's good enough to find a full time gig at some point. 

[hogsanity]

So why say anything at all?  Nothing anyone says on Hogville means anything or actually matters.

I'm bored is usually why.

[Hogs49ers]

I'm bored is usually why.

Lol fair enough, same here.

[phadedhawg]

[rljjr]

The kicking game directly lost us two games in 2014.  Texas A&M and Alabama.  That's not debateable.  Irwin-Hill would have been a huge improvement in field goals, extra points and kickoffs.  That's not debateable either.

Yeah, that kicking game was terrible fumbling in and out of the end zone in that Bama game.

[OS2 (SW) Razor Back]

It's offficial.  We'll bitch about anything.

Lmao.Tell it all brother tell it all.

[RazorWhacker]

All games should be moved to Little Rock.

There. That should effectively derail this dumb thread.

[ricepig]

Whomever is in charge of approving accounts on here??

[BigSexyHog]

You guys have killed my will to live.  Jesus Christ

[Seebs]

Lmao.Tell it all brother tell it all.

Okay - your tag line has bothered me for some time - can you please fix the following mistakes - 'pennant' and 'miracles' are both misspelled. Earth should not be capitalized. I fixed it for you - copy and paste for your new tag line and improve credibility. Gracias. 
The Giants win the pennant!!!!! The Giants win the pennant!!!
Today, I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth.
I can't believe what I just saw!!!!
Down goes Frazier!!!! Down goes Frazier!!!
Do you believe in miracles?!?!?!

[Seebs]

You guys have killed my will to live.  Jesus Christ

If you were banking on Hogville to fill that void in your life you should have been an epitaph a few years ago.  Its not like you are an Ole Miss fan. Buck up. Sally-forth.

[tbhogfan]

So Irwin Hill starting kicker for Cowboys tonite.  Never even kicked for Hogs? 

Neither did Dan Bailey.