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  • #51 by Inhogswetrust on 12 Aug 2017
  • Well IU is at least as delusional as Arkansas and Mizzou fans in that regard.

    IU fans remember more glory years than Arkansas and Mizzou. They have a more storied history in basketball. In list of all-time wins they are #11, Arkansas is 29 and Mizzou is 42.
  • #52 by mizzouman on 12 Aug 2017
  • I feel like I'm constantly defending Mizzou and you... don't know why. Guess I just don't have anything against you guys. But I've had some legitimately good times in Columbia. I used to tour in bands back in the day and played at the Blue Note a few times. Don't know if that place is still around, but I had some good times there. Good little college town from my vantage point.
    Blue Note is still there.  Great place
  • #53 by niels_boar on 12 Aug 2017
  • Martin has a history of putting teams on the floors that defend very well but can't score efficiently and play at a snail's pace.  In 2016 he had two top-10 recruits on the baseline, a top-25 recruit at SG, and a quality senior PG.  He still didn't have a top-50 offense.  Last year at Cal he had a PF and SG that both got drafted and a top-75 frosh at PG.  He couldn't manage top-half of the nation in offensive efficiency but was an outstanding #14 in defensive efficiency.  That's just odd. He didn't make it to the NCAAs. 

    I imagine he left because he was going to be on the hot seat with 0 NCAAT wins after landing Brown and Rabb.  Also, they were #277 in pace last season.  If you are playing that slow with poor efficiency, waiting for scores will be like pulling teeth.  You better win playing like that, or the natives will get bored quickly, especially if you have 2 NCAAT appearances in nine years on your resume.  CMA has 8 NCAAT appearances in 15 years, and the coaches on here will tell you that he doesn't know what he is doing.  The pace doesn't seem the best way to take advantage of uber talent.  He might be better coaching scrappy overachievers. 

    Rabb was a top-10 recruit that didn't make it to the first round after two years with Martin.  He plays at a slow pace and is perceived to not take advantage of talent.  That makes me wonder just why he's a good recruiter.
  • #54 by MoHog74 on 15 Aug 2017
  • It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  Who knows, maybe they will get to the Final Four for the first time...ever.
  • #55 by mizzouman on 16 Aug 2017
  • It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  Who knows, maybe they will get to the Final Four for the first time...ever.
    Final 4?  NIT.
  • #56 by MoHog74 on 16 Aug 2017
  • It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  Who knows, maybe they will get to the Final Four for the first time...ever.

    They're 3rd on the list for most NCAA appearances without a Final Four.  Until Kim Anderson arrived, they were 2nd on the list to BYU, but then they fell to 3rd behind Xavier.  I don't see final four for them this year.  WPS
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