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Injury thread
« on: July 29, 2017, 11:37:58 am »

Jared being held out for back injuries. Greenlaw. Two players we need for sure.

Can't help but think with our recent past experience with preseason injuries this is not the end of it.

Kind of just sitting here waiting on "news" to break during the next practice.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2017, 11:47:15 am »

Jared being held out for back injuries. Greenlaw. Two players we need for sure.

Can't help but think with our recent past experience with preseason injuries this is not the end of it.

Kind of just sitting here waiting on "news" to break during the next practice.

Injuries happen all the time, part of sports, sport.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2017, 11:49:24 am »

Also, Alexy Jean Baptiste is not practicing yet, not sure on Lafrance.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2017, 12:17:45 pm by ricepig »
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2017, 12:15:49 pm »

Injuries happen all the time, part of sports, sport.

I was unaware of this. Thanks for the update.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2017, 12:16:28 pm »

Also, Alexy Jean Baptists is not practicing yet, not sure on Lafrance.

Jean baptiste is a guy I'm hoping pans out. He had a lot of potential out of high school.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2017, 12:18:26 pm »

Jean baptiste is a guy I'm hoping pans out. He had a lot of potential out of high school.

Me too, appeared to be very athletic with the needed size.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2017, 12:38:15 pm »

Me too, appeared to be very athletic with the needed size.
Friend of mine from down da bayou told me that all their friends whom saw him play multiple times swore he was a star and a half better than he was rated and the bayou bengals screwed up royally not taking him.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2017, 12:40:01 pm »

Friend of mine from down da bayou told me that all their friends whom saw him play multiple times swore he was a star and a half better than he was rated and the bayou bengals screwed up royally not taking him.
Baptiste was from Florida, are you talking about Lafrance?
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2017, 12:42:41 pm »

Baptiste was from Florida, are you talking about Lafrance?
La france
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2017, 12:56:25 pm »

La france

Ok, we were talking about Baptiste.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2017, 01:13:09 pm »

Ok, we were talking about Baptiste.

Also, Alexy Jean Baptiste is not practicing yet, not sure  on Lafrance . .

And then...
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2017, 01:19:28 pm »


And then...



Or....

Jean baptiste is a guy I'm hoping pans out. He had a lot of potential out of high school.

Me too, appeared to be very athletic with the needed size.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2017, 01:30:01 pm »

Ok, we were talking about Baptiste.
My bad. I had just been talking bout La france with someone on the phone n I got brain freeze. Srry.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2017, 01:51:36 pm »

My bad. I had just been talking bout La france with someone on the phone n I got brain freeze. Srry.

No prob, I've got high hopes for him, too. Hopefully those two can get healthy and get in the rotation this year.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2017, 01:15:59 pm »

1 down.

Jamario Bell. Foot injury. Requires surgery. 10-12 weeks.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2017, 01:19:35 pm »

1 down.

Jamario Bell. Foot injury. Requires surgery. 10-12 weeks.

Is the # of foot injuries we have normal or are we outside the bell curve..........
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2017, 01:36:16 pm »

Is the # of foot injuries we have normal or are we outside the bell curve..........

I find it weird.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2017, 01:41:19 pm »


I wonder how other Nike schools wearing the same particular shoes as the Hogs wear have the same # of foot injuries. 

The hogs sure seem to have more than normal.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2017, 01:45:06 pm »

1 down.

Jamario Bell. Foot injury. Requires surgery. 10-12 weeks.
that super sucks, too. he has the highest ceiling on the team at OLB. Damnit.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2017, 01:50:08 pm »

.....it has to be the altitude  ;)
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2017, 01:55:59 pm »

Hoping Gabe Richardson or someone else can step up at the strong-side OLB position. I had high hopes for Bell this fall. Tough luck.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2017, 01:56:39 pm »

Is the # of foot injuries we have normal or are we outside the bell curve..........
http://www.mdedge.com/amjorthopedics/article/70921/foot-ankle/incidence-and-variance-foot-and-ankle-injuries-elite-college

"Seventy-two percent (n = 231) of the players had a history of foot and ankle injuries, with a total of 287 foot and ankle injuries (1.24 injuries/player injured). The most common injuries were lateral ankle sprain (n = 115), syndesmotic sprain (50), metatarsophalangeal dislocation/ turf toe (36), and fibular fracture (25). Foot and ankle injuries were most common in kickers/punters (100% incidence), special teams (100%), running backs (83%), wide receivers (83%), and offensive linemen (80%). Lateral ankle sprains, the most common injuries, were treated surgically only 2.6% of the time. Offensive linemen were most likely to have had syndesmotic sprains (32%), and quarterbacks had the highest incidence of fibular fractures (16%).

Foot and ankle injuries are common in collegiate football players, affecting 72% of players. Thirteen percent underwent surgical treatment. Trends are seen in the types of injuries for the different player positions."
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2017, 01:59:39 pm »

article is a little old, but a great hog made the list

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/13763052/college-football-all-injury-team

RB Jonathan Williams, Arkansas (out for season, foot injury)
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2017, 02:03:16 pm »

I wonder how other Nike schools wearing the same particular shoes as the Hogs wear have the same # of foot injuries. 

The hogs sure seem to have more than normal.
I was training in some Nike runners and they completely screwed my foot up.  Obviously a different deal than the football cleat version, but I find that compared to other shoes they tend to be pretty terrible at providing proper support.  I don't see this high of a number of foot injuries across the board and Nike supplies a ton of other programs so I would find it hard to believe that they are the primary cause.  It definitely seems to be a crazy high number of foot injuries over the last 3 years or so.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2017, 02:08:49 pm »

I was training in some Nike runners and they completely screwed my foot up.  Obviously a different deal than the football cleat version, but I find that compared to other shoes they tend to be pretty terrible at providing proper support.  I don't see this high of a number of foot injuries across the board and Nike supplies a ton of other programs so I would find it hard to believe that they are the primary cause.  It definitely seems to be a crazy high number of foot injuries over the last 3 years or so.

My career has me on my feet a lot walking and moving. I hate my Nike's.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2017, 02:10:59 pm »

1 down.

Jamario Bell. Foot injury. Requires surgery. 10-12 weeks.
Dang it man. I had high hopes for him this year.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2017, 02:17:21 pm »

My career has me on my feet a lot walking and moving. I hate my Nike's.

Many runners agree with this.  I switched to reebok's a few years ago, definitely more comfortable and support when doing anything with impact on feet, ankles and knees.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2017, 02:18:46 pm »

Many runners agree with this.  I switched to reebok's a few years ago, definitely more comfortable and support when doing anything with impact on feet, ankles and knees.

I have quickly become a Reebok snob. They are the best shoes out there for people on their feet a lot. I made a mistake with these Nike shoes. But being frugle, I'll wear them until they die.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2017, 02:21:51 pm »

The don't ever seem to be minor injuries but season ending ones every dang time, every stinkin year. Honestly with our record of foot injuries I fully expect to lose another one before end of year.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2017, 02:24:20 pm »

The don't ever seem to be minor injuries but season ending ones every dang time, every stinkin year. Honestly with our record of foot injuries I fully expect to lose another one before end of year.

Like I said, I've been sitting back waiting for the news to break.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2017, 02:29:32 pm »

Body Feet by Herb?
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2017, 02:30:50 pm »

Body Feet by Herb?

When the lights come on, the feet crumble.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2017, 02:31:07 pm »

Body Feet by Herb?

Has nothing to do with it.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2017, 02:33:34 pm »

Has nothing to do with it.
people keep guessing as to why, but none of the theories are tested. it's like the coaches are just hoping it will stop. I bet we have several more broken feet before the end of the camp.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2017, 02:35:15 pm »

If Jeff Long has a lick of sense, he'll cancel that Nike contract - heck, pay the buyout if there is one - and switch to Sketchers.  Most comfortable shoe out there.  And if it's good enough for Matt Kuchar, hey...
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2017, 02:57:16 pm »

Has nothing to do with it.

And you know this how?
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2017, 03:03:09 pm »

Many runners agree with this.  I switched to reebok's a few years ago, definitely more comfortable and support when doing anything with impact on feet, ankles and knees.

Yep.  I switched to Asics.  My feet thank me for it.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2017, 03:07:25 pm »

Yep.  I switched to Asics.  My feet thank me for it.

Yep, I haven't worn anything else in 7 years, love them.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2017, 03:14:18 pm »

And you know this how?

He has more insight than 99% of Hogville.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2017, 03:25:14 pm »

If Jeff Long has a lick of sense, he'll cancel that Nike contract - heck, pay the buyout if there is one - and switch to Sketchers.  Most comfortable shoe out there.  And if it's good enough for Matt Kuchar, hey...

I heard that Pepsi products weaken bones in the foot.

But don't quote me on that.
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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2017, 03:43:06 pm »

Nike's look good, but I find their support and quality to suck compared to Reebok.  That's just my personal experience though, it may vary for others and within product lines.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2017, 03:46:45 pm »

Has nothing to do with it.

Inquiring minds really would like to know the theory behind this...  it's an incredible number of foot injuries. 
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2017, 04:43:19 pm »

Hoping Gabe Richardson or someone else can step up at the strong-side OLB position. I had high hopes for Bell this fall. Tough luck.

Well we do have 21 LB's listed on roster......
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Re: Injury thread
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2017, 07:04:58 pm »

Body Feet by Herb?

I do wonder if our training staff are taping in a way that may be contributing to this problem, as it does seem extra prevalent and severe for the hogs and as others have mentioned there are plenty of schools wearing nikes.
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« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2017, 07:11:29 pm »

I do wonder if our training staff are taping in a way that may be contributing to this problem, as it does seem extra prevalent and severe for the hogs and as others have mentioned there are plenty of schools wearing nikes.
13% of NCAA football players have had a foot injury requiring surgery.

of our 85 scholarship players are 11 of them out for foot surgery?

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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2017, 07:18:08 pm »

13% of NCAA football players have had a foot injury requiring surgery.

of our 85 scholarship players are 11 of them out for foot surgery?

You're going to have to provide a little more in depth data on the life history of the population of Arkansas football players and their injuries to make your point
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« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2017, 07:18:33 pm »

13% of NCAA football players have had a foot injury requiring surgery.

of our 85 scholarship players are 11 of them out for foot surgery?

Foot injuries are genetic dispositions combined with super strong muscles and longer lever arms. Basic physics. Kids today get so strong and can put so much torque on bones that the bones break easier. The human body wasn't designed to contain the torque and force components put on them by today's athletes.
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« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2017, 08:48:06 pm »

You're going to have to provide a little more in depth data on the life history of the population of Arkansas football players and their injuries to make your point
I'm just trying to provide a baseline for what is normal to determine if arkansas is having excessive foot injuries, or if that view is by nature, myopic.

that number was from a study on NCAA foot/ankle injuries that is already quoted in this thread.
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http://www.mdedge.com/amjorthopedics/article/70921/foot-ankle/incidence-and-variance-foot-and-ankle-injuries-elite-college

"Seventy-two percent (n = 231) of the players had a history of foot and ankle injuries, with a total of 287 foot and ankle injuries (1.24 injuries/player injured). The most common injuries were lateral ankle sprain (n = 115), syndesmotic sprain (50), metatarsophalangeal dislocation/ turf toe (36), and fibular fracture (25). Foot and ankle injuries were most common in kickers/punters (100% incidence), special teams (100%), running backs (83%), wide receivers (83%), and offensive linemen (80%). Lateral ankle sprains, the most common injuries, were treated surgically only 2.6% of the time. Offensive linemen were most likely to have had syndesmotic sprains (32%), and quarterbacks had the highest incidence of fibular fractures (16%).

Foot and ankle injuries are common in collegiate football players, affecting 72% of players. Thirteen percent underwent surgical treatment. Trends are seen in the types of injuries for the different player positions."
so unless we have had more than 11 (85 x 13%) over the past 4-5 years (assuming broken bones require surgery) then we dont really have a higher than average number of foot injuries.

I admit its not a perfect baseline, but its better than nothing, which is what most people are basing their opinion on so far.

off the top of my head, I'm thinking we've had in the neighborhood of 6-8 broken feet over the last few years.
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Re: Injury thread
« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2017, 08:55:32 pm »

Foot injuries are genetic dispositions combined with super strong muscles and longer lever arms. Basic physics. Kids today get so strong and can put so much torque on bones that the bones break easier. The human body wasn't designed to contain the torque and force components put on them by today's athletes.
either that, or they aren't drinking enough milk.
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