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Tennessee or UCLA tonight?

Started by NuttinItUp, September 01, 2008, 12:02:43 pm

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Who will win tonight?

Tennessee
115 (76.2%)
UCLA
29 (19.2%)
Too close to call
7 (4.6%)

Total Members Voted: 141

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NuttinItUp

September 01, 2008, 12:02:43 pm
Will Rick Neuheisel make any difference for UCLA?

Hogginitall

September 01, 2008, 12:05:13 pm #1
I heard Aundre Dean is going to start for them.  You all remember him?  I think we were in his top 2.
 

Hogbody

September 01, 2008, 12:12:46 pm #2
I don't think it will even be close honestly

SEC only loses one game opening weekend.

NuttinItUp

September 01, 2008, 12:31:34 pm #3
What about with the points? (Tennessee is favored by 7)

Hogginitall

September 01, 2008, 12:41:46 pm #4
UCLA has some trends in their favor. 

QuoteTennessee at UCLA


This intersectional matchup might need explaining, as Tennessee starts on the Left Coast for a second consecutive season. The Volunteers believe they can compete in the SEC East with Georgia and Florida, with the coaches having made the proper adjustments. Junior Jonathan Crompton has the size and arm strength to be a stud at quarterback and has talented receivers to throw to like Lucas Taylor. Tennessee is 9-4 against the spread in season openers. The Vols are a 7.5-point road favorite and are 18-9 ATS in this role over the last 10 seasons.

UCLA comes into the first game of the Rick Neuheisel era, with a laundry list of injuries, including having to go with junior transfer Kevin Craft as signal caller. At least Craft can throw to speedsters like Dominique Johnson on the perimeter.  The offensive line has been reworked and no true stud has emerged as running back. Last year's frustrating squad had to lean on defense and only five starters return from that group. With all that has gone wrong, credit goes to the former Bruins quarterback Neuheisel, attempting to resurrect head coaching career, by saying this about everything that has gone wrong, "This creates opportunity for other young men to step up."


When looking at the two teams and the present situation, why is Tennessee not at least a nine-point favorite?  For starters, the UCLA players will be jazzed for new coach and national cable television exposure, before the home fans. The Bruins are 12-2 SU and ATS in home openers (1-1 with Vols) and 17-4 ATS as home underdogs. Also, UCLA is 9-2 against the number versus ranked teams as a home team catching points.

The Blue and Yellow clad Bruins have a shot if they can control the five returning offensive linemen from Tennessee from opening up holes as large as the nearby I-210 freeway, being 8-0 ATS in home games, when they allow 3.5 to 4 rushing yards per attempt.

peakhog

September 01, 2008, 12:44:55 pm #5
Fat Phil and the deer camp boys all the way!
Go SEC!!!

hoghelmet14

September 01, 2008, 12:50:08 pm #6
Our pastor from Church is from tennessee... he rubs them in our face so much that the entire Church hates Tennessee and we aint suppose to hate anyone....

................. but hey............ Go UCLA :)
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Bigfoot

September 01, 2008, 12:51:56 pm #7
I've got Tennessee picked in this one!                                                                                                                                                   
If the Vols win, I have 8 wins for the first week of Hogville pickems!  8)  ;D

JawsTheme

September 01, 2008, 12:55:06 pm #8
I got Tennessee. I'd say they win by 14.

LivingLegends

September 01, 2008, 12:58:38 pm #9 Last Edit: September 01, 2008, 01:04:49 pm by LivingLegends
I was listening to The Herd and they were saying that UCLA's line is depleted.  Like they don't have anything.  Tenn by 21

The real Hogules

September 01, 2008, 01:12:48 pm #10
Tennessee will/should run away with it, even on the road.
They're the better team when you consider athletes, but in all honesty UCLA does have the better coaching staff.
The bottom line is that the coaching staffs aren't allowed to participate in the actual game, so I'm sticking with UT as the eventual winner of the contest.
Bobby's back and he ain't here to paint!

Beaverfever

September 01, 2008, 01:14:17 pm #11
I wouldn't be surprised to see Tenn win by 30 points or so.

NuttinItUp

September 01, 2008, 04:48:04 pm #12
Voting is pretty decisive. I hope the game turns out that decisively. ;)
 

wrs001

September 01, 2008, 05:10:07 pm #13
Tennessee by 17...Foster runs for 150 and catches several balls out of the backfield

The Hog

September 01, 2008, 05:17:32 pm #14
Quote from: NuttinItUp on September 01, 2008, 12:02:43 pm
Will Rick Neuheisel make any difference for UCLA?
Absolutely.  Chow will make a tremendous difference as OC but it may not be this year. 
Automatic RUN!

Nashville Fan

September 01, 2008, 05:35:32 pm #15
UCLA doesn't have much. Chow could make it interesting. The new OC for TN could struggle. TN doesn't really have a QB yet. TN should win but a couple of turnovers by TN's new spread offense and this game could swing the other way fast.
Pittman or Bust!

lyben7

September 01, 2008, 05:37:41 pm #16
SEC all the way

pimpndistress

September 01, 2008, 05:38:03 pm #17
SEC
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The Hog

September 01, 2008, 05:43:59 pm #18
Quote from: Nashville Fan on September 01, 2008, 05:35:32 pm
UCLA doesn't have much. Chow could make it interesting. The new OC for TN could struggle. TN doesn't really have a QB yet. TN should win but a couple of turnovers by TN's new spread offense and this game could swing the other way fast.
LSU might differ with you on the QB.  He just about wrecked their ship.  He had a ruff night against us in Fayetteville but the Hog defense played very good that night.

As we have seen, a new offense can cause problems.  If it does for Tennessee, UCLA will be in the game.
Automatic RUN!

ErieHog

September 01, 2008, 05:52:30 pm #19
Tennessee should win this one, and it shouldn't be too close.   For all of the valid criticisms of Tennessee football over the past decade or so, one that can't be leveled at them is ineffective play on the DL, or the interior of the LB core.   UCLA's OL issues still haven't been solved, and they're going to have a tough time keeping their QB clean to make plays against the TN secondary.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Golfer

September 01, 2008, 05:54:51 pm #20
Quote from: hoghelmet20 on September 01, 2008, 12:50:08 pm
Our pastor from Church is from tennessee... he rubs them in our face so much that the entire Church hates Tennessee and we aint suppose to hate anyone....

................. but hey............ Go UCLA :)

AMEN, Glen. lol

Razorvet

September 01, 2008, 06:35:21 pm #21
UCLA has some talent but the way teams have faired under new coaches this season

Arkansas-W (But Man was I spooked)

A&M-L

SMU-L

Michigan-L

Im trying to list coaches who had a chance but didnt get the win. Can anyone else think of some first year coaches who won thier openers?

Nutt and Petrino and WVUs coach ( although he has been with them for a while).

ErieHog

September 01, 2008, 06:43:45 pm #22 Last Edit: September 01, 2008, 06:45:25 pm by ErieHog
Quote from: Razorvet on September 01, 2008, 06:35:21 pm
UCLA has some talent but the way teams have faired under new coaches this season

Arkansas-W (But Man was I spooked)

A&M-L

SMU-L

Michigan-L

Im trying to list coaches who had a chance but didnt get the win. Can anyone else think of some first year coaches who won thier openers?

Nutt and Petrino and WVUs coach ( although he has been with them for a while).

Others:

Paul Johnson won his debut at Georgia Tech;  Cutcliffe won his first game at Duke.  Paul Wulff lost his debut at Washington State.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

capnamerica

September 01, 2008, 06:53:32 pm #23
Quote from: NuttinItUp on September 01, 2008, 12:02:43 pm
Will Rick Neuheisel make any difference for UCLA?
he will just not this early
 

ErieHog

September 01, 2008, 07:11:51 pm #24
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

TexHog188

September 01, 2008, 07:14:47 pm #25
Bo Pelini (sp) won at NE.
"When you're around people that have been where you're trying to go, they know the answers."  Moses Moody

Dwight_K_Shrute

September 01, 2008, 07:24:44 pm #26
I had said earlier in the week I would go all SEC except for 1.  Well I'm finding it very hard to pull for TN.  I'm already sick of hearing Rocky Top.
Little known fact, but prior to settling on Guantanamo, the Pentagon wanted to house terror suspects at War Memorial Stadium.  It was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment and in violation of the Geneva Convention.

ErieHog

September 01, 2008, 07:25:48 pm #27
Quote from: Dwight_K_Shrute on September 01, 2008, 07:24:44 pm
I had said earlier in the week I would go all SEC except for 1.  Well I'm finding it very hard to pull for TN.  I'm already sick of hearing Rocky Top.

I know!  Less than 10 minutes into the year, and I'm ready to throw a brick at the TV just because of Rocky Top.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

Dwight_K_Shrute

September 01, 2008, 07:34:22 pm #28
Was glad TN went for and missed the FG.  UCLA D brought it on those last two plays.  Damn I hate that Fat Frank Fulmer.
Little known fact, but prior to settling on Guantanamo, the Pentagon wanted to house terror suspects at War Memorial Stadium.  It was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment and in violation of the Geneva Convention.

ErieHog

September 01, 2008, 07:36:41 pm #29
Quote from: Dwight_K_Shrute on September 01, 2008, 07:34:22 pm
Was glad TN went for and missed the FG.  UCLA D brought it on those last two plays.  Damn I hate that Fat Frank Fulmer.

Yeah; I'm just not seeing UCLA sustaining anything against TN tonight, though.    Crompton's making mistakes, but they all seem more easily corrected than the scattershot UCLA approach to offense.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

COCHISE

September 01, 2008, 07:54:34 pm #30 Last Edit: September 01, 2008, 07:57:23 pm by 870 RZR
I'm torn about this one, I normally root for the SEC team in these situations, but d*** I hate Tennessee. 

ErieHog

September 01, 2008, 07:55:35 pm #31
Maybe UCLA can win this on turnovers and special teams play....

That'd piss off a lot of TN fans who are already baying for Fulmer's head.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

hoghelmet14

September 01, 2008, 07:56:11 pm #32
Another cupcake scores first.... LOL
Proud to be an American!  Proud to be an Arkansas Razorback Fan!

Dwight_K_Shrute

September 01, 2008, 08:37:44 pm #33
Did anyone just see Tennessee QB run into his RB and fall down.  In my best Nelson Muntz.  Ha Ha.
Little known fact, but prior to settling on Guantanamo, the Pentagon wanted to house terror suspects at War Memorial Stadium.  It was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment and in violation of the Geneva Convention.

Nashville Fan

September 01, 2008, 08:39:20 pm #34
TN's defense is impressive
Pittman or Bust!

tendu

September 01, 2008, 08:43:52 pm #35
UCLA QB sucks

Dwight_K_Shrute

September 01, 2008, 08:44:19 pm #36
Jeezus Neuheisel.  This was one time you should have gone all Nutt inside 2:00.  I hope to hell you have a Wild Bruin, because you have a Mr. Interception King on your hands.
Little known fact, but prior to settling on Guantanamo, the Pentagon wanted to house terror suspects at War Memorial Stadium.  It was deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment and in violation of the Geneva Convention.

Hogeyeblind

September 01, 2008, 08:46:38 pm #37
any lip readers catch neuheisel mouth "f**k me" on that last pic that UT retuened for a TD

Tejano Jawg

September 01, 2008, 08:51:04 pm #38
What a nasty nasty game this is.
Between McAfee being obnoxious and Corso decomposing before our eyes I can't even watch GameDay anymore. —Torqued Pork

OklaU

September 01, 2008, 08:52:14 pm #39
TN defense isn't great, that QB just can't throw to his own man.  It might be against his morals.
"Just because you had the last word, doesn't make it anymore true."

NWASooner

September 01, 2008, 08:57:03 pm #40
UCLA sucks.  They have no talent.

Unless TN can pound UCLA, they suck too.

Nashville Fan

September 01, 2008, 08:57:45 pm #41
Quote from: OklaU on September 01, 2008, 08:52:14 pm
TN defense isn't great, that QB just can't throw to his own man.  It might be against his morals.
I typed the comment thinking about the run. UCLA can't have 20 yards rushing. Both QBs are weak.
Pittman or Bust!

The Hog

September 01, 2008, 08:58:20 pm #42
This game is showing why you star gazers need to leave the recruiting to the coaches ratings.  Crompton was a 5 star and looks like a no star.  He may improve but this game will be determined by the best of the worst QB's.

Tennessee defense is killing the UCLA running game.  UCLA will have to throw which is bad.  What is their longest run, 7 yards. 
Automatic RUN!

Table Rocker

September 01, 2008, 09:01:52 pm #43
Never thought I'd say this bit thank God for casey dick

irishman

September 01, 2008, 09:17:41 pm #44
Tennessee's running back looks freakin good. That guy has a freakin great stiffarm and nice vision.

ErieHog

September 01, 2008, 09:27:00 pm #45
Quote from: irishman on September 01, 2008, 09:17:41 pm
Tennessee's running back looks freakin good. That guy has a freakin great stiffarm and nice vision.

He's been good for a while.  2,400 yards on 519 career carries entering tonight (4.6 per), and 22 TDs.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."

brh

September 01, 2008, 09:38:59 pm #46
Chow looks like he might make the UCLA offense look reputable in about 2 years.  other than that neither team looks terribly impressive. 

1highhog

September 01, 2008, 09:47:24 pm #47
I'm rooting for the SEC all the way.

brh

September 01, 2008, 09:52:32 pm #48
 i retract my previous statement, looks more like nutt calling plays for UCLA, 3rd and 12 and he runs a pitch from his 6... wow!  :puke:

Shady Hog Fan

September 01, 2008, 10:02:55 pm #49
TN should be up at least 2 touchdowns.  They are going to give this game away.
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