What I do know is recruits and their families

[jdunhog]

follow this board! The negativity probably hurts our program!

[dsims2k3]

But the fan base wants  players. 

[porkinsons disease]

Just a thought...Maybe we should put a better product out and win some damn games against teams with a pulse

[majp51]

follow this board! The negativity probably hurts our program!

Look if hogville was this way and CMA had guided us to the tourney every year but last year, you would have a point. Thing is, this negativity is because of the opposite. To any player who thinks they are actually a great player this negativity is actually a selling point for a program.


COmpetent Recruiter:
"LOok at how starved for winning this program is, when you help bring Arkansas back to the NCAA, they will worship you."

Any HS with even a small chance for the NBA has a huge ego, this type of negativity given the state of the program can actually feed it.

[rickfahr]

Look if hogville was this way and CMA had guided us to the tourney every year but last year, you would have a point. Thing is, this negativity is because of the opposite. To any player who thinks they are actually a great player this negativity is actually a selling point for a program.


COmpetent Recruiter:
"LOok at how starved for winning this program is, when you help bring Arkansas back to the NCAA, they will worship you."

the last statement in the above post was perhaps inadvertently telling -- getting the hogs BACK to the NCAA, not winning in the tourney, just getting there -- pathetic

[rude1]

Oh I get it, message board bad for recruits confidence in program. 1 Tourney visit in 6 years no big deal in confidence in program.

[Biggus Piggus]

follow this board! The negativity probably hurts our program!

The negativity is visible in mostly empty Bud Walton Arena.

Kentucky 97, Arkansas 71 => Kentucky 87, Vanderbilt 81 -- that hurts our program.

Losing at home to Mississippi State + becoming its best win of the year, that hurts our program.

Retaining a coach whose teams play a style fans hate, that hurts our program.

[WBOBO]

After watching Frank Martin tonight, I am fully convinced we need to go in a different
direction.  The guy can flat out coach.

[Biggus Piggus]

South Carolina held Tennessee to 16-41 (39%) shooting from 2-pt range, 1-11 (9%) from 3-pt range. Also forced 22 turnovers.

That is defense.

All you have to do is watch a few games of other teams, and you'll come away wondering why Arkansas can't look that good.

[WorfHog]

On track for one NCAA tournament in SIX years hurts worse. Mike ain't got nobody to blame but Mike.

[MountieDawg]

follow this board! The negativity probably hurts our program!

Maybe they will say who they think the next coach should be.

[jdunhog]

Maybe they will say who they think the next coach should be.

I thought you were in love Malik, Calipari and Kentucky!

[Boardon Hamsay]

Given that 6 of MA's next 7 recruits (2017 & 2018) are in state kids, I'd be willing to roll the dice on a new coach. It won't happen but it's fun to think about what could be if we could stop driving down the road looking in the rear view mirror. If these kids are just able to play in spite of MA's "coaching", we'll do ok....maybe make a tourney or two and MA will get an extension not from recruiting better, not from coaching better, but simply because the state had a good couple talent cycle years in a row. I think the kids are more pro Arkansas than pro MA.

[MountieDawg]

I thought you were in love Malik, Calipari and Kentucky!

I like both programs, like it much better when Arkansas is good!!!  MA is not getting it done, if you think he is are you a Hog fan?

[hawginbigd1]

After watching Frank Martin tonight, I am fully convinced we need to go in a different
direction.  The guy can flat out coach.

And he was on the hot seat a couple back at South Carolina, a school that has mostly done 0 in college basketball in over 100 years.

[jdunhog]

I like both programs, like it much better when Arkansas is good!!!  MA is not getting it done, if you think he is are you a Hog fan?

I think you are a anderson hater and love Kentucky!

[hog.goblin]

follow this board! The negativity probably hurts our program!

Making the NCAAT more than once every six years would help with that

[WBOBO]

I think you are a anderson hater and love Kentucky!

I think you are an Anderson lover that is blind to the fact we suck fundamentally.  "Tip it out if ya can't the rebound."  How about teaching blocking out to GET a rebound.  I like Mikey but he needs to go.  And go quickly.  Switching on defense with him is similar to launching a rocket towards space.  Total chaos Houston.

[WBOBO]

I thought you were in love Malik, Calipari and Kentucky!

Who wouldn't be?  He was the Corliss we didn't land.  Thanks Mike.

[onebadrubi]

After watching Frank Martin tonight, I am fully convinced we need to go in a different
direction.  The guy can flat out coach.

He was who I wanted but many people here bashed the guy.

[onebadrubi]

Who wouldn't be?  He was the Corliss we didn't land.  Thanks Mike.

No Arkansas coach was landing Malik.  That decision was made by Marcus for Malik and it was purely a business decision for Marcus.

[tophawg19]

He was who I wanted but many people here bashed the guy.

me too

[rude1]

He was who I wanted but many people here bashed the guy.

What would you guys be saying if we were headed into year 5 with no Tourney visit like SC, would you have been ok with that too?

[WBOBO]

No Arkansas coach was landing Malik.  That decision was made by Marcus for Malik and it was purely a business decision for Marcus.

Can we meet on mutual grounds and say Monk=Corliss in terms of impact?

[Hogs958]

oh. Well in that case everything is sunshine, rainbows, and lollipops. Chocolate rivers with gum drop smiles.

[WBOBO]

What would you guys be saying if we were headed into year 5 with no Tourney visit like SC, would you have been ok with that too?

Yes because he never got an impact player like Portis.  He had to rely on Ellington who played football.  That was his impact player starting out.  Had no contacts on the East coast.  Yeah a five to six year pass would have been given.

[WBOBO]

Can we meet on mutual grounds and say Monk=Corliss in terms of impact?

Let me also preface this by saying in athletic talent, not locker room impact.
Corliss had a weight bench where he would lift before games to do what he did.

[hawganatic]

follow this board! The negativity probably hurts our program!

I get so tired of hearing this.  There is nothing wrong with a fanbase showing passion and wanting to win.  Do you really think the players, and their families, aren't sports fans and don't get just as pissed when the teams THEY love lose?

Really question the people who take this kind of thought process and how much they really love their team.  How can you watch something you supposedly love just die, and not have any real reaction to it?

[elksnort]

follow this board! The negativity probably hurts our program!

I don't think so.

[WBOBO]

What would you guys be saying if we were headed into year 5 with no Tourney visit like SC, would you have been of with that too?

You will see come Feb 15 what a coach that builds does.  Betcha a dollar to a buffalo nickel cocks win by 13.

[wachhog]

follow this board! The negativity probably hurts our program!

You don't think they watch TV?

[hog47]

Ok, everyone here is wanting to get back to the days of Sutton and Richardson and rightly so. I really like CA . He has brought academics and established a better atmosphere.  However, I have come to the sad conclusion that CA is hanging on to the past whiIe  the basketball world has moved on to a vastly different offense and defense. When Mississippi State players say that their coach said  " they are weak in blocking out" in an insulting way, then it's time to move on to another coach that can recruit and coach. As old as I am i believe I could do a better job of blocking out. Their is no energy, no sense of urgency, absolutely no coaching during time outside only just telling them to hustle. I coached at the secondary level and I can tell you he's just not coaching, believe me!!!!

[jdunhog]

You will see come Feb 15 what a coach that builds does.  Betcha a dollar to a buffalo nickel cocks win by 13.

Well it will be hard to beat them when the refs are helping them too!

[jdunhog]

Ok, everyone here is wanting to get back to the days of Sutton and Richardson and rightly so. I really like CA . He has brought academics and established a better atmosphere.  However, I have come to the sad conclusion that CA is hanging on to the past whiIe  the basketball world has moved on to a vastly different offense and defense. When Mississippi State players say that their coach said  " they are weak in blocking out" in an insulting way, then it's time to move on to another coach that can recruit and coach. As old as I am i believe I could do a better job of blocking out. Their is no energy, no sense of urgency, absolutely no coaching during time outside only just telling them to hustle. I coached at the secondary level and I can tell you he's just not coaching, believe me!!!!

Send him a tweet like I did maybe he will listen to you! I tweeted him i felt like he should pull off the press more!

[hawganatic]

No Arkansas coach was landing Malik.  That decision was made by Marcus for Malik and it was purely a business decision for Marcus.

We lost Malik because he's only planning one year in college, and he was smart enough to know playing on a high profile team like Kentucky, that will probably go deep in the tournament and have a chance at winning a title, is better for him in the long run.

Who is going to get more pub/name recognition?  A player on a final four team, or a player on a team working their way through the NIT?  Which player is going to make more $$$ in endorsements in April when they announce they're going pro?

A coach that had won consistently and gone deeper in the tournament would have had a lot better chance of landing Malik.

[WBOBO]

Well it will be hard to beat them when the refs are helping them too!

Look at the fouls tonight against Tennessee on the road and tell me the help
and love from the refs.  No love sir.

[WBOBO]

We lost Malik because he's only planning one year in college, and he was smart enough to know playing on a high profile team like Kentucky, that will probably go deep in the tournament and have a chance at winning a title, is better for him in the long run.

Who is going to get more pub/name recognition?  A player on a final four team, or a player on a team working their way through the NIT?  Which player is going to make more $$$ in endorsements in April when they announce they're going pro?

A coach that had won consistently and gone deeper in the tournament would have had a lot better chance of landing Malik.

Sir if we had Malik we would have have lost 1 game sir.   I don't think college
has anything to do with it.  Ask Kobe or LeBron.  He just wanted to experience it.  Why
not Arkansas unless your brother was promised by that greaseball I will get you five new clients in one year versus one, your brother.  Let's see where Marcus goes in five
years after his brother leaves Ky.

[hawganatic]

Sir if we had Malik we would have have lost 1 game sir.   I don't think college
has anything to do with it.  Ask Kobe or LeBron.  He just wanted to experience it.  Why
not Arkansas unless your brother was promised by that greaseball I will get you five new clients in one year versus one, your brother.  Let's see where Marcus goes in five
years after his brother leaves Ky.

Kobe and Lebron didn't have to go to college so not sure what your point is.  I'm sure if the rules let Malik go pro out of high school he would have.  Kobe would have gone to Duke if he had played and Lebron would have played at Memphis, both teams that were winning and going deep in the tournament at the time.

As far as if Arkansas would only have one loss with him, that is speculation, compared to a proven winner at KY.

[rude1]

We lost Malik because he's only planning one year in college, and he was smart enough to know playing on a high profile team like Kentucky, that will probably go deep in the tournament and have a chance at winning a title, is better for him in the long run.

Who is going to get more pub/name recognition?  A player on a final four team, or a player on a team working their way through the NIT?  Which player is going to make more $$$ in endorsements in April when they announce they're going pro?

A coach that had won consistently and gone deeper in the tournament would have had a lot better chance of landing Malik.

What spot was Ben Simmons drafted?

[WBOBO]

Kobe and Lebron didn't have to go to college so not sure what your point is.  I'm sure if the rules let Malik go pro out of high school he would have.  Kobe would have gone to Duke if he had played and Lebron would have played at Memphis, both teams that were winning and going deep in the tournament at the time.

As far as if Arkansas would only have one loss with him, that is speculation, compared to a proven winner at KY.

Sir you can still sign a pro NBA contract out of high school.  If I am wrong correct me.  I still say at least 2 years in college is good for the player.

[hawganatic]

What spot was Ben Simmons drafted?

Not talking about draft position.  Malik will go top 5 regardless of where he played college ball.

At KY he is already becoming a well known player.  That will translate to more $$$ in endorsement deals.  He would gain some household recognition at Arkansas, but not at the same level he will at KY.

And before anybody comes back with all top 5 players get endorsements, I realize that.  It a situation of how much they get, not if they will get.

[hawganatic]

Sir you can still sign a pro NBA contract out of high school.  If I am wrong correct me.  I still say at least 2 years in college is good for the player.

Sir you cannot, sir.  You have to be a year removed from high school, sir.

[hobhog]

MA has about a 20% approval rating. That won't change much ever unless he goes on an unprecedented run. Time to cut bait.

[WBOBO]

Sir you cannot, sir.  You have to be a year removed from high school, sir.

ok.  Yeah Calipari implanted that to get his one and dones.  Forgot that.
How is NBA basketball?  Sucks just like college.  With the exception of Golden St and San Antonio, and maybe the Clappers.

[WBOBO]

Sir you cannot, sir.  You have to be a year removed from high school, sir.

Is there anyone on the planet that can talk Malik to transfer and sit out
one year to transfer back to Arkansas?  Rest his knees and and ankles while working out.  MJ didn't leave college til he was a junior and he is probably the richest basketball
player ever.  I just want to see him in a Hog uniform on the court for one year.

[onebadrubi]

Can we meet on mutual grounds and say Monk=Corliss in terms of impact?

I actually don't agree with that. Monk is a shooter.  Shooters can disappear in a game but a true big like Corliss was can still change a game defensively on an off night shooting. Monk is better than good sure, and he would have instantly made Arkansas a ranked team at this point in the year, sure. I'm not sure anyone is debating his addition to this team would make us better

[onebadrubi]

We lost Malik because he's only planning one year in college, and he was smart enough to know playing on a high profile team like Kentucky, that will probably go deep in the tournament and have a chance at winning a title, is better for him in the long run.

Who is going to get more pub/name recognition?  A player on a final four team, or a player on a team working their way through the NIT?  Which player is going to make more $$$ in endorsements in April when they announce they're going pro?

A coach that had won consistently and gone deeper in the tournament would have had a lot better chance of landing Malik.

Assanine. Ben Simmons proved you wrong. Someone like Malik at Arkansas would have been on a big enough stage to get exactly where he was going to go, the NBA.  Malik going to Kentucky did nothing for him in the long run or the NBa, the only thing it did anything for was Marcus

[1highhog]

Where was all this talk 6 years ago?  Everyone was so in love with we just had to have MA as Coach that Jeff Long would be the biggest fool if he didn't hire him to bring back the 40 minutes of hell to Bud Walton.  Only a certain few of us criticized the hiring of Mike as Coach, I for one didn't like his road record at Mizzou at the time, others, maybe they disliked something else.  But either way it's been a terrible hire and after and extremely long 6 years we're no better off than we were before he got here as far as wins are concerned.  That's six long years to build a basketball program, longer than we'll give our football coach to rebuild a football team that The last Coach wouldn't have been able to Coach a peewee team, John Smith.

[regi]

After watching Frank Martin tonight, I am fully convinced we need to go in a different
direction.  The guy can flat out coach.

While we do need a change of direction, Frank is in his 5th year at Carolina, he has yet to make the NCAA Tourny at South Carolina. Lets slow down a little

[MountieDawg]

I think you are a anderson hater and love Kentucky!

I thought Anderson was a pretty good hire... I was very wrong...